使君子 發表於 2008-4-13 21:36:13

粤语与壮语一些相同相似的底层词汇

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<P>凉飕飕: leong jum jum 其中 leong 明显是华语「凉」,而 jum 正是壮语的「凉」。 <BR><BR>麻烦、拖拉:lun lun jun jun ,与壮语的 lun lun tsun tsun (罗里罗嗦、拖拖拉拉)同源。 <BR><BR>盖: kum 与壮语南部方言的 kum (倒置、盖)一模一样。 <BR><BR>倒塌: lum 与壮语的 lum(下陷、塌陷)一模一样。 <BR><BR>躬身、下蹲: maoo 与壮语的 maoo(下蹲、伏)一模一样。 <BR><BR>完蛋: pai 与壮语的 pai「去」(完蛋了)完全一样。 <BR><BR>唠叨: up 与壮语的 ngyup(唠叨、念) 同源。 <BR><BR>想: num 与壮语的「想」 num 完全一样。 <BR><BR>舔:lai / lyem 与壮语的「舔」lei / li 同源。 <BR><BR>乳头:lin 与壮语南部方言的「乳头」lin 一样。 <BR><BR>水软:nam 与壮语的 num 同源。 <BR><BR>女阴:haee 与壮语南部方言的 hei / hee (女阴,阴道)同源。 <BR><BR>母、雌性: nar 与壮语的 nar (女子、阿姨)同源。 <BR><BR>白晃晃:buk lai sai 其中 buk 肯定是华语的「白」,但 lai sai 却是壮语的「非常」。 <BR><BR>找:won(搵)与壮语的 won (挖掘、寻觅)一致。 <BR><BR>骗:ngok 与壮语的 ngok (骗)同源。 <BR><BR>刚刚:ngarm ngarm 与壮语的ngarm ngarm (刚刚)一模一样。 <BR><BR>...... <BR></P>

猪肉佬 發表於 2008-4-17 18:57:03

<P>水软:nam 与壮语的 num 同源。 <BR></P>
<P>呢句错咗,嗰只字系古汉语,有文献同咁讲:</P>
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卢总 發表於 2008-4-17 19:09:10

<P>「屎棍子」出咗名滥发胶论,所以大家唔好太将佢讲嘅嘢、发嘅帖当一回事!</P>
<P>「屎棍子」系一个点样嘅人,从以下呢张帖可见一斑:</P>
<P><A href="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/viewthread.php?tid=9803&amp;extra=page%3D1">http://bbs.cantonese.asia/viewthread.php?tid=9803&amp;extra=page%3D1</A></P>

iunn5 發表於 2008-4-18 14:35:56

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