之21: 要爽? 揉(蹂)自己!
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">“Coca Cola”, </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">中文译作</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">“</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">可口可乐</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">”, </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">堪</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">称经典中之经典</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">. </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">译者</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">蒋彝教授</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">, </span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">当年留学英伦</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">, </span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">将其佳作回寄上海</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">, </span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">取得公开登报悬赏之三百五十英镑</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">. </span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">于今回首八十年前</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">, </span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">可口可乐公司仅以些微赏金</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">, </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">巧取其今日于全球华人社会无与伦比之知名度</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">, </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">称</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">“</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">一本万利</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">亦毫不为过</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">.</font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">论及译名</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">, </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">其对手</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">“</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">百事</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">旗下亦有一产品译名可圈可点</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">: 7up, </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">七喜</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">. “7up”</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">若照原意翻译</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">, </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">应为</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">“7</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">起</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">”. </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">但</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">八十年代登陆</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">香港时</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">, </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">有师爷妙笔一挥</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">, </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">弃</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">“</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">起</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">而拣选粤语同音字</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">“</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">喜</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">”, </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">既衬合</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">“</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">百事可乐</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">一向示人之欢快气氛</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">, </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">又避免因</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">“7”</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">与</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">“</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">起</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">叠加于粤语中而产生之不恰当联想</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">?</span></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">市场经济</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">, </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">崇尚竞争</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">? </span>“</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">可口</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">与</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">“</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">百事</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">”, </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">由美国本土斗至全球</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">. </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">但两家从未抱怨对方施行</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">“</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">恶性竞争</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">”, </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">重复建设</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">, </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">浪费资源</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">, </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">亦从未藉口</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">“</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">保护美利坚民族产业</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">, </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">照顾美利坚同胞感情</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">而联手瓜分海内外市场</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">. </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">两家均过百岁</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">, </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">同样欣欣向荣</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">. </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">此个案值得我国国内动辄将经济问题</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">“</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">泛政治化</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">者三思</span><font face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US">. </span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"><p></p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">坊间一直传闻</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">: </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">饮用可乐过多可招致精子遭杀伤</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">. </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">若是</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">, </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">国家人口与计划生育委员会应从速与可乐公司洽商</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">, </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">指定可乐为我国计划生育运动专用饮物</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">, </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">强令全国已为人父者</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">, </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">日饮数罐</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">, </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">直至其精殆尽</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">. </font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">而可口可乐公司似早已心领神会</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">, </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">尽显默契</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">, </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">一直积极主动配合人口国策之实施</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">. </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">既从不公开否认杀精传闻</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">, </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">两年以来更不断催谷鼓励自慰之新口号</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">: “</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">要爽</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">? </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">揉</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">(</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">蹂</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">)</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">自己</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">!” </font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">绝</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">! </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">绝代之绝</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">! </font></span></p> <p> 粵語語素豐富無疑為英漢翻譯增添趣味性。呢一帖都收集咗啲生鬼嘅英粵翻譯:<a href="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/dispbbs.asp?boardID=114&ID=2886">http://bbs.cantonese.asia/dispbbs.asp?boardID=114&ID=2886</a></p> <p><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">「7」</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'mso-hansi-font-family:';">与</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">「</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'mso-hansi-font-family:';">起</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">」</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'mso-hansi-font-family:';">叠加于粤语中而产生之不恰当联想</span></p><p><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'mso-hansi-font-family:';"></span>?</p><p><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'mso-hansi-font-family:';">好嘢,噉都畀你諗到。唔起又點會喜?</span></p> <p>多谢OK兄, Highyun兄提供补充资料!</p><p>我睇完之后都笑餐饱. :-)</p> <div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>highyun</i>在2007-3-6 11:30:28的發言:</b><br/><p><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">「7」</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'mso-hansi-font-family:';">与</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">「</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'mso-hansi-font-family:';">起</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">」</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'mso-hansi-font-family:';">叠加于粤语中而产生之不恰当联想</span></p><p><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'mso-hansi-font-family:';"></span></p><p><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'mso-hansi-font-family:';">好嘢,噉都畀你諗到。唔起又點會喜?</span></p></div><p>你唔係而家先知吓話~?</p><p>其實留意吓“七喜”嘅英文都會發現</p> <p>「<span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'mso-hansi-font-family:';">要爽</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">? </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'mso-hansi-font-family:';">揉</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">(</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'mso-hansi-font-family:';">蹂</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">)</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'mso-hansi-font-family:';">自己</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">!」</font></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">依句絕啊~~~</span></p> <div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>西关原居民</i>在2007-3-5 13:22:48的發言:</b><br/><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">论及译名</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">, </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">其对手</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">“</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">百事</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">旗下亦有一产品译名可圈可点</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">: 7up, </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">七喜</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">. “7up”</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">若照原意翻译</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">, </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">应为</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">“7</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">起</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">”. </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">但</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;">八十年代登陆</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">香港时</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">, </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">有师爷妙笔一挥</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">, </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">弃</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">“</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">起</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">而拣选粤语同音字</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">“</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">喜</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">”, </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">既衬合</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">“</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">百事可乐</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">一向示人之欢快气氛</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">, </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">又避免因</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">“7”</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">与</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">“</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">起</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">”</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">叠加于粤语中而产生之不恰当联想</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">. </font></span></p></div><p>「7up」<span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'mso-hansi-font-family:';">若照原意翻译</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">, </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'mso-hansi-font-family:';">应为</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">「7</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'mso-hansi-font-family:';">起</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">」?</font></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">你识唔识英文嘎?!「7up」<font face="宋体">照原意翻译就可以翻译成「七喜」.</font></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">up本来就有心情喜兴的意思嘎,佢嘅反意词down就有心情低落的意思嘎.</span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">你估英文单词就净系得一种意思嘎?!</span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">你讲D古仔完全系穿凿附会.</span></p>[此帖子已經被作者於2007-3-16 21:18:47編輯過]
<p><font face="新細明體">“up and down”,高低起跌,事業或者機器時好時壞。</font></p><p><font face="新細明體">之但係“up”冇心情喜慶嘅意思。</font></p> <div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>Wai</i>在2007-3-18 16:42:30的發言:</b><br/><p><font face="新細明體">“up and down”,高低起跌,事業或者機器時好時壞。</font></p><p><font face="新細明體">之但係“up”冇心情喜慶嘅意思。</font></p></div><p><font face="PMingLiU" size="3">“up”系有心情喜慶嘅意思嘅,唔信你可以查下D英语俚语辞典.</font></p><p><font size="3">英语同粤语一样,在一些<font face="PMingLiU">俚语俗语里面系有很多变化嘅,唔系一成不变嘅.</font></font></p><p><font size="3">就好似<font face="PMingLiU">“<font face="Arial"><font color="#c60a00">What</font>'<font color="#c60a00">s</font>
<font color="#c60a00">Up?</font></font>”咁,呢句就系D鬼佬见面用嚟打招呼用嘅俚语,意思就好似我地粤语里面嘅“<font face="Arial" color="#c60a00">呢排点啊?</font>”,对于呢D俚语,唔通你可以简单咁直译成“<font face="Arial" color="#c60a00">什么是上升?</font>”啊?</font></font></p>
[此帖子已經被作者於2007-3-18 22:23:46編輯過]
<p><font face="新細明體">噉你查出嚟。</font></p><p><font face="新細明體">將個意思打嚟呢度睇吓喇。</font></p> <p>1) 唔好意思, 恕在下孤陋寡闻, "what's up"听得多, "let somebody down"亦听得多, 但好遗憾, 从未听过"let somebody up", 亦未听过"make somebody up"以表喜悦, 请举证, 多谢.</p><p>2)"Up"与数字相连时, 一般解作"起"并无不妥. 例如, 满街满巷之告白, 如楼宇价钱, 大书"XXX元起", 英文即"XXX up".?</p><p>3)纵使真理在手,亦无须指责他人穿凿附会.大家平心切磋,教学相长,更符合"粤语协会"宗旨.在下极不愿见到好地地一个论坛,沦为谩骂场所. </p> <p>楼上前辈,无需同佢一般见识,佢总系会一招叫“鸡蛋里挑骨头”——“包拗颈”。</p><p>等佢“有日”写张原创有见地嘅嘢上嚟,我哋再先……又何妨呢?礼尚往来啊嘛~呵呵。拭目以待啦</p>
[此帖子已經被作者於2007-3-21 5:32:38編輯過]
呵呵,興許cheer sb. up可講通 <div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>malsony</i>在2007-3-26 12:34:03的發言:</b><br/>呵呵,興許cheer sb. up可講通</div><p></p><p>嗱,睇到啦,终于有人讲番D嘢啦.</p><p>你地就净系识话我包拗颈,因人废言,我啊,话虽刺耳,但通常都唔系乱讲嘎,明无?哈哈.</p><p></p> <div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>朱利安</i>在2007-3-26 14:33:57的發言:</b><br/><p></p><p>嗱,睇到啦,终于有人讲番D嘢啦.</p><p>你地就净系识话我包拗颈,因人废言,我啊,话虽刺耳,但通常都唔系乱讲嘎,明无?哈哈.</p><p></p></div><p></p><p>那試問:</p><p>“我screw you UP”的UP又何解?</p><p>我叫你“shut the f**k UP”的UP又何解?</p><p></p>
[此帖子已經被作者於2007-3-26 14:42:49編輯過]
呵呵,一兩個UP是不能說明問題的,cheer sb. up只是個別例子,還待朱兄舉出普遍的例子。 <div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>malsony</i>在2007-3-26 14:41:16的發言:</b><br/><p></p><p>那試問:</p><p>“我screw you UP”的UP又何解?</p><p>我叫你“shut the f**k UP”的UP又何解?</p><p></p><br/></div><p></p><p>哈哈.</p><p>洗咩打星号啊,做人直率D好,有咩话咪就直讲啰,我的EQ同心理承受力都比你地高N倍喔,哈哈.</p><p></p>
[此帖子已經被作者於2007-3-26 14:51:04編輯過]
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>malsony</i>在2007-3-26 14:45:38的發言:</b><br/>呵呵,一兩個UP是不能說明問題的,cheer sb. up只是個別例子,還待朱兄舉出普遍的例子。</div><p></p>查字典唔系我强项啵,查字典个D辛苦嘢就留返畀D中意查字典D人去查啦,反正呢道好多人中意查字典嘎,哈哈. <div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>朱利安</i>在2007-3-26 14:48:27的發言:</b><br/><p></p><p>哈哈.</p><p>洗咩打星号啊,做人直率D好,有咩话咪就直讲啰,我的EQ同心理承受力都比你地高N倍喔,哈哈.</p><p></p><br/></div><p></p><p></p><p>呵呵,既然你明白,我又何須直言?朱兄還沒回答我上面的問題呢?</p> <div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>朱利安</i>在2007-3-26 14:55:21的發言:</b><br/><p></p>查字典唔系我强项啵,查字典个D辛苦嘢就留返畀D中意查字典D人去查啦,反正呢道好多人中意查字典嘎,哈哈.</div><p></p>呵呵,學術應該嚴謹,非信口開河,若無佐證,祗會令人覺得朱兄所言實為亂“UP”……
[此帖子已經被作者於2007-3-26 14:58:48編輯過]
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