penkyamp 發表於 2010-2-6 14:37:57

大中华华语人名英化拼音

<font style="font-weight: bold;" size="4"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">21 Century Pang Reformed Mandarin Pinyin II</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">21世纪改良满达琳语拼音方案第二式(大中华华语人名英化拼音)</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">庞贯哲</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">凡画等于号的,都是可以互换的形式</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">辅音, 声母</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">b p m f (pie 撇 mie 灭 muo 莫)</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">d t n l (nie 捏 die 叠 lie 烈 nuo 诺)</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">nyu lyu&nbsp; (nyu 女 lyue 略)</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">g k h (guan 惯 huang 荒 kuo 阔 gong 工)</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">z c s&nbsp; ( si&nbsp;&nbsp; 思&nbsp; ser=sir=sier=丝儿&nbsp; zuan 钻 suo 索 zong 宗)</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">&nbsp;</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">zy cy sy (代替 j q x&nbsp; 如 "cyi" 代替 "其"&nbsp; cye=cyie=切 zyiu=zyou=zyiu 揪 syen=syien=先 zyong=zyiong=炯 syau=syiau=笑)</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">zyu cyu syu&nbsp; (代替 ju- qu- xu- 如 "zyue" 代替 "绝" syuen 选 cyu 区)</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">j ch sh r ( ri=zhi=日 ran=zhan=然 juan=转 shi 是 jer=jir=jier 汁儿)</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">y w</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">yu ("yuen" 代替 "圆"&nbsp; "cyu" 代替&nbsp; "去" yong 勇 wo 卧 you 忧)</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">元音, 韵母</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">a</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">ai&nbsp;&nbsp; au&nbsp;&nbsp; (代替 ai ao )</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">an&nbsp; ang</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">e</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">ei&nbsp; (代替 ei&nbsp; 如"zey" 代替 "贼")</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">en eng (jeng 正 weng 翁)</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">er</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">i</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">in ing (ling 灵 sying 星 ying 英)</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">o</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">ou ong (cyiu=cyou=cyiou=求)</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">u</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">y</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">ya yau yan yang</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">ye yen</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">yong (syong=syiong 雄)</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">yu yun yue yuen&nbsp; (代替 v&nbsp; vn&nbsp; ve&nbsp; van&nbsp; 如 "nyu" 代替 "女", "cyun" 代替 "群", "lyue" 代替 "略", "syuen" 代替 "宣")</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">w</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">ua uai uan uang (huai 坏)</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">uei uen ueng&nbsp; (guei 贵 huen 混 kuei 奎 weng 瓮)</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">四声调</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">mä má mâ mà</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">再别康桥</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">Zàibié Kängcyáu</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">作者:徐志摩</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">Zuòjê: Syú Jì-Muó</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">轻轻地我走了,正如我轻轻地来,</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">Cyïngcyïngde wô zôule, jèngrú wô cyïngcyïngde lái</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">轻轻挥手,作别西天的云彩。</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">Cyïngcyïng huëishôu, zuòbié syïtiën de yúncâi</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">那河畔的金柳,是夕阳中的新娘,</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">Na hepan de zyinlyou, shi syiyangjong de syinniang</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">波光里的滟影,在我心头荡漾。</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">Boguangli de yenying, zai wo syintou dangyang</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">软泥上的青荇,油油地在水底招摇,</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">Ruannishang de cyingsying, youyoude zai shueidi jauyau</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">在康河的柔波里,我甘心做一条水草。</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">Zai Kanghe de roubuoli, wo gansyin zuo yitiau shueicau</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">那榆荫下的一潭,不是清泉是天上的虹,</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">Na yuyinsya de yi tan, bushi cyingcyuen shi tienshang de hong</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">揉碎在浮藻间,沉淀彩虹似的梦。</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">Rousuei zai fuzau zyen, chendien caihongsi de meng</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">寻梦,撑一支长篙,向青草更青处漫溯,</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">Syunmeng, cheng yiji changhau, syang cyingcau gengcying chu mansu</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">满载一船星辉,在星辉斑斓里放歌。</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">Manzai yichuan syinghuei, zai syinghuei-banlanli fangge</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">但我不能放歌,悄悄是离别的笙箫,</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">Dan wo buneng fangge, cyaucyau shi libie de shengsyau</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">夏虫也为我沉默,沉默是今晚的康桥。</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">Syachong ye wei wo chenmuo, chenmuo shi zyinwan de Kangcyau</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">悄悄地我走了,正如我悄悄地来,</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">Cyaucyaude wo zoule, jengru wo cyaucyaude lai</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">挥挥衣袖,不带走一片云彩。</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">Hueihuei yisyou, bu daizou yipien yuncai</span><br style="font-family: Verdana;"></font>

xiss 發表於 2010-2-6 16:57:29

普通話嘅話,<br><br>我鍾意「威妥瑪拼音」同「國語注音二式」<br>

penkyamp 發表於 2010-2-11 17:39:26

<font size="5" face="Comic Sans MS">VERSION 2.1<br>
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再别康桥<br>
Dzàibié Kängtsyáu<br>
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作者:徐志摩<br>
Dzuòjê: Syú Jì-Muó<br>
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轻轻地我走了,正如我轻轻地来,<br>
Tsyïngtsyïngde wô dzôule, jèngrú wô tsyïngtsyïngde lái<br>
轻轻挥手,作别西天的云彩。<br>
Tsyïngtsyïng huëishôu, dzuòbié syïtiën de yúntsâi<br>
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那河畔的金柳,是夕阳中的新娘,<br>
Na hepan de dzyinliou, shi syiyangjong de syinniang<br>
波光里的滟影,在我心头荡漾。<br>
Boguangli de yenying, dzai wo syintou dangyang<br>
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软泥上的青荇,油油地在水底招摇,<br>
Ruannishang de tsyingsying, youyoude dzai shueidi jauyau<br>
在康河的柔波里,我甘心做一条水草。<br>
Dzai Kanghe de roubuoli, wo gansyin dzuo yitiau shueitsau<br>
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那榆荫下的一潭,不是清泉是天上的虹,<br>
Na yuyinsya de yi tan, bushi tsyingtsyuen shi tienshang de hong<br>
揉碎在浮藻间,沉淀彩虹似的梦。<br>
Rousuei dzai fudzau dzyen, chendien tsaihongsi de meng<br>
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<br>
寻梦,撑一支长篙,向青草更青处漫溯,<br>
Syunmeng, cheng yiji changhau, syang tsyingtsau gengtsying chu mansu<br>
满载一船星辉,在星辉斑斓里放歌。<br>
Mandzai yichuan syinghuei, dzai syinghuei-banlanli fangge<br>
<br>
但我不能放歌,悄悄是离别的笙箫,<br>
Dan wo buneng fangge, tsyautsyau shi libie de shengsyau<br>
夏虫也为我沉默,沉默是今晚的康桥。<br>
Syachong ye wei wo chenmuo, chenmuo shi dzyinwan de Kangtsyau<br>
<br>
悄悄地我走了,正如我悄悄地来,<br>
Tsyautsyaude wo dzoule, jengru wo tsyautsyaude lai<br>
挥挥衣袖,不带走一片云彩。<br>
Hueihuei yisyou, bu daidzou yipien yuntsai<br>
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佛振 發表於 2010-2-11 21:05:21

<font size="5" face="Comic Sans MS">tsyingtsyuen 感覺拼式太長啦,打字真費力……<br>不分尖團的普通話,採用dzy, tsy, sy還是gy, ky, hy很令人矛盾喔。按此文來看,</font><font size="5" face="Comic Sans MS">該設計</font><font size="5" face="Comic Sans MS">和《漢語拼音方案》一樣是無法表示出尖音 的。俺這分尖團的官話只得另謀出路啦。<br><br>佛振做了一式</font><font size="5" face="Comic Sans MS">拼讀中原官話的</font><font size="5" face="Comic Sans MS">「中州羅馬字」,也請行家點評一下吧。<br>http://zime.googlecode.com/files/zhungzhou-luomazy-0.6.pdf<br>特別是標調符號,我用了</font><font size="5" face="Comic Sans MS">ˊˋ</font><font size="5" face="Comic Sans MS">ˆˇ,但由於元音字母包含 y w,而此二者</font><font size="5" face="Comic Sans MS">與符號 ˇ 的搭配統一碼中未收錄,令我十分頭疼。<br>還有這是「中州羅馬字」符號標調工具。那兩個缺少的符號暫以 ¨ 替代</font><font size="5" face="Comic Sans MS"> ˇ</font><font size="5" face="Comic Sans MS">。<br>http://zime-web.appspot.com/typewriter/lmz<br></font><font size="5" face="Comic Sans MS"><br></font>

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xiss 發表於 2010-2-12 01:48:23

原帖由 <i>佛振</i> 於 2010-2-11 21:05 發表 <a href="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=171483&amp;ptid=20987" target="_blank"><img src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/common/back.gif" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="attachimg(this, 'load')" alt="" border="0"></a>
tsyingtsyuen 感覺拼式太長啦,打字真費力……不分尖團的普通話,採用dzy, tsy, sy還是gy, ky, hy很令人矛盾喔。按此文來看,該設計和《漢語拼音方案》一樣是無法表示出尖音 的。俺這分尖團的官話只得另謀 ... <br>如果是分尖團的話,我覺得可以參考一種立足于現行《漢語拼音方案》的修改方法:<br><br><span style="font-family: Tahoma;">尖:z c s&nbsp;&nbsp; 團:j q x</span><br style="font-family: Tahoma;"><br style="font-family: Tahoma;"><span style="font-family: Tahoma;">尖:zii cii sii&nbsp; 團:ji qi xi</span><br style="font-family: Tahoma;"><br style="font-family: Tahoma;"><span style="font-family: Tahoma;">尖:zian cian sian&nbsp; 團:jian qian xian</span><br style="font-family: Tahoma;"><br style="font-family: Tahoma;"><span style="font-family: Tahoma;">尖:zü cü sü&nbsp; 團:ju qu xu</span><br style="font-family: Tahoma;"><br style="font-family: Tahoma;"><span style="font-family: Tahoma;">尖:züe cüe süe&nbsp; 團:jue que xue</span><br><br>如此類推............<br>

penkyamp 發表於 2010-2-12 04:32:23

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<p style="margin: 0in; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="font-family: SimSun;">佛振做了一式拼讀中原官話的「中</span><span style="font-family: &quot;comic sans ms&quot;;"> </span><span style="font-family: SimSun;">州羅馬字」,也請行家點評一下吧。</span></p>

<p style="margin: 0in; font-family: &quot;comic sans ms&quot;; font-size: 18pt;"><a href="http://zime.googlecode.com/files/zhungzhou-luomazy-0.6.pdf">http://zime.googlecode.com/files/zhungzhou-luomazy-0.6.pdf</a></p>

<p style="margin: 0in; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="font-family: SimSun;">特</span><span style="font-family: &quot;comic sans ms&quot;;"> </span><span style="font-family: SimSun;">別是標調符號,我用了ˊˋˆˇ,但由於元音字母包含</span><span style="font-family: &quot;comic sans ms&quot;;"> y w</span><span style="font-family: SimSun;">,而此二者與符號</span><span style="font-family: &quot;comic sans ms&quot;;"> ˇ </span><span style="font-family: SimSun;">的搭配統一碼中未收錄,令我十分頭疼。</span></p>

<p style="margin: 0in; font-size: 18pt;"><span style="font-family: SimSun;">還有這是「中州羅馬字」符號標調工具。那兩個缺</span><span style="font-family: &quot;comic sans ms&quot;;"> </span><span style="font-family: SimSun;">少的符號暫以</span><span style="font-family: &quot;comic sans ms&quot;;"> ¨ </span><span style="font-family: SimSun;">替代</span><span style="font-family: &quot;comic sans ms&quot;;"> ˇ</span><span style="font-family: SimSun;">。</span></p>

<p style="margin: 0in; font-family: &quot;comic sans ms&quot;; font-size: 18pt;"><a href="http://zime-web.appspot.com/typewriter/lmz">http://zime-web.appspot.com/typewriter/lmz</a></p>

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佛振 發表於 2010-2-12 23:09:16

原帖由 <i>xiss</i> 於 2010-2-12 01:48 發表 <a href="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=171506&amp;ptid=20987" target="_blank"><img src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/common/back.gif" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="attachimg(this, 'load')" alt="" border="0"></a>
如果是分尖團的話,我覺得可以參考一種立足于現行《漢語拼音方案》的修改方法:尖:z c s&nbsp;&nbsp; 團:j q x尖:zii cii sii&nbsp; 團:ji qi xi尖:zian cian sian&nbsp; 團:jian qian xian尖:zü cü sü&nbsp; 團:ju qu xu尖:z ... <br><br>是的。我也試過。與此大同小異,鑑於 ü 不好打字,我一概用 yu 代替它(包括lyu, nyu等):<br>zyi&nbsp; cyi&nbsp; syi :: ji&nbsp; qi&nbsp; xi<br>zian cian sian :: jian qian xian<br>syu cyu syu :: ju qu xu<br>zyue cyue syue :: jue que xue<br><br>不足是拼寫規則越來越繁複,都怪原設計有意為之。於是我不忍了,就自己做了一個。<br><br>

penkyamp 發表於 2010-2-13 06:22:09

Cy 版,给将来不愿用汉语拼音 jqx&nbsp; zh ch sh 作为官方拼音的台湾用。<br><br>Tsy 版,给不愿人名出现 「c」 「q」「x」 「zh」 的海外华人用。<br><br>仅此而已。<br>

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佛振 發表於 2010-2-14 19:00:43

大善。
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