越南:賄賂已成生活方式民眾不敢公然談論腐敗

xiss 發表於 2010-2-1 00:20:48

<span style="color: DarkRed;">教你個秘訣：如果出價合理你才能在越南辦成事情</span><br>　　<br><font size="4">「你是從外星球來的吧，問這個傻問題。所有越南人都知道答案是『當然啦』。」</font><br>　　<br><span style="color: Blue; font-weight: bold;">陳春嶺(音)在河內以開摩的為生。當問到他是否對員警行賄時，他如此回答。</span>我們乘坐的小巴在一個路口被一幫員警揮手攔了下來。當時我們想前往越南中部歸仁港附近的一個村莊，同行的一位朋友側身告訴我接下來會發生什麼。他說：「員警會挑錯，然後向司機罰款。」我說我們似乎沒有做錯什麼。他說：「員警總能挑出錯來。」的確，他是對的。我們的一名女乘客在膝蓋上放了個盒子。裏面是她給住在偏遠村子的侄子買的玩具。員警說這是違法行為，因為這輛小巴只允許搭載乘客，不能運輸貨物。司機沒有辯解。他只是遞過去5萬越南盾(約合3美元)，我們就接著上路了。<span style="color: Blue; font-weight: bold;">就賄賂而言，這點錢不算什麼。但司機說他每天都得交這筆錢。其他司機的經歷也差不多。員警們借此掙的錢很可觀。這種錢數不多、每天都上演的腐敗讓越南百姓極其不滿。</span><span style="font-style: italic; color: SeaGreen;">（好似香港上世紀六七十年代）</span><br>　　<br><font style="font-weight: bold; color: Blue;" size="4">不敢公然談論腐敗</font><br>　　<br><span style="color: Blue;">位於香港的政治和經濟風險諮詢公司通過調查把越南列為亞洲第四位的腐敗國家，排在印尼、泰國和菲律賓之後。更糟的是，由於政府監管制度很嚴，人們不會公然議論越南的腐敗現象。<span style="color: SeaGreen; font-style: italic;">（連講都唔畀你講，對比中國內地真係有過之而無不及）</span></span>一些對政府的做法持嘲諷態度的人說，當局偶爾對某名高官提起的公訴表明反腐之戰正不斷取得勝利。本月初交通運輸部公路建設局前局長因賭博和受賄被判13年監禁。其餘8名官員也被判入獄。在發生這一醜聞的兩年前，當時交通運輸部長陶庭平被迫辭職。他的副手被逮捕，但至今還未被起訴。儘管人們對政府的這些做法表示讚賞，但普通老百姓仍舊抱怨說一名貪腐的部長下臺並不能改變他們<span style="color: Blue; font-weight: bold;">每天被員警、醫生、老師、房東以及各種政府部門的規章敲詐勒索的情況。</span><span style="color: SeaGreen; font-style: italic;">（猶如香港全民皆貪嘅黑暗年代）</span><br>　　<br><font size="4">給老師送「紅包」</font><br>　　<br>看看教育系統的狀況吧。越南人都想讓孩子上好的學校，為此他們也十分煩惱。<span style="color: Blue;">家長們對每月都得私下給老師「紅包」十分不滿，這麼做的目的是確保老師會關注他們的孩子。</span>名義上越南是一個社會主義國家，實行義務制教育。但實際上人們要在教育上花不少錢，如果家長想讓孩子上一所著名國立學校時尤其如此。阮蘭香(音)是河內的一名有兩個孩子的保險推銷員，她對《星期日海峽時報》記者說，當她試圖把女兒送進一所頗受歡迎的高中時，校長告訴她學校名額已滿，她孩子沒法入學。這很合理，不過她感覺這扇門並沒有完全關死。果然，當阮女士付了一筆錢後這位校長發現學校還是有一個能讓她孩子入學的名額。阮女士說：「我出了1000美元。在新學年伊始這樣的特殊日子裏我還得給校長買禮物和給錢。」　　<br>　　<br><font style="font-weight: bold;" size="4">黑暗的醫療行業</font><br>　　<br>醫療行業也同樣黑暗，人們對本該免費的社會主義醫療體制的偽善本質憤怒不已。每一個越南人都知道要醫生好好看病就必須給醫生紅包。如果他們想要好藥也必須額外給錢。鄭施秋莊是位年輕的母親，她是河內一家大使館的職員，她說，如果不想在門診部待上幾小時的話往往必須私下給醫生錢。她說；「要讓醫生快點給我做檢查，通常我至少要給她5萬盾。」她認識的所有女性都會在去醫院生產時給助產人員「紅包」。鄭女士說：<span style="color: Blue; font-weight: bold;">「在城區醫院裏如果你希望醫生能馬上認真地給你看病，你至少得給他50萬盾。」當她生孩子時，她的女兒得到了很好的照料，因為她丈夫事先給了醫生紅包。鄭女士說：「但我鄰床的貧困女性和她孩子的待遇就不怎麼好，當我跟她談論這個問題時她哭了起來，還說家裏太窮，沒法給醫生紅包。」</span><span style="color: SeaGreen; font-style: italic;">（猶如香港全民皆貪嘅黑暗年代，叫護士都要畀「茶錢」）</span><br>　　<br><font style="font-weight: bold;" size="4">根源在於工資低</font><br>　　<br>當然，越南的國家雇員普遍腐敗的根源就在於他們的工資少得可憐。剛從大學畢業的國立學校教師或醫院醫生每月只能掙65美元，新員警的收入也大致相當。因此，回扣的誘惑幾乎是不可抵擋的。但這並不能讓普通老百姓得到安慰，在幾乎所有的日常事務上他們都得行賄。讓越南人尤其惱火的一種欺詐行為是當醫生們開出處方，讓患者在國有藥店取免費藥時，他們會說：「如果你真的要治好病，就應該到我認識的藥店去買另一種藥。」那裏的藥劑師收的錢肯定比其他藥店高出許多，醫生將從這樁生意中提成。鄭女士說：「我知道醫生們勾結藥劑師來掙外快，但如果你不照他們說的做，下次你再去看病時他們會說孩子沒好都是你的錯。」<br>　　<br>　　<span style="font-style: italic; color: Gray;">新加坡《星期日海峽時報》9月16日報導</span><br>

xiss 發表於 2010-2-1 00:21:33

<font style="color: DarkRed;" size="5">天下烏鴉一般<font style="color: Black;" size="7">黑</font></font><br><br>唔好畀某位越南五毛矇騙，以為越南真係咩人間天堂、世外桃源。

使君子 發表於 2010-2-1 11:58:48

贪腐资料

<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br></span></div>所以话你小朋友即系小朋友。样样限到实晒，「死咕咕」的地方，根本无钱可赚。<b><u>香港经济打好根基（用制造业积累资本）阶段，啱好就系贪腐最昌盛的六七十年代。</u></b>直到八十年代先至开始「执正来做」，转型为金融业，制造业大量外移至东莞深圳。</span><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-family: simsun; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px; "><p align="center" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; word-wrap: normal; word-break: normal; line-height: 24px; "><strong><font style="word-wrap: normal; word-break: normal; line-height: 24px; font-size: 16px; ">看美国二百年贪腐史和体制改革（节选）</font></strong></p><p align="center" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; word-wrap: normal; word-break: normal; line-height: 24px; ">练乙铮《信报》 2009年6月11日</p></span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-family: simsun; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px; "><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; word-wrap: normal; word-break: normal; line-height: 24px; ">哈佛大学两位教授 E. Gleaser和C. Goldin ○四年在该大学召开的一个美国社会贪腐史研讨会上发表实证研究成果，指出美国社会的贪腐发展，一百年来经历了三个阶段：<font style="word-wrap: normal; word-break: normal; line-height: 24px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#4169E1">一八二○年之前，民风纯朴，社会比较廉洁；</font><b><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#4169E1">一八三○年左右起，美国进入贪腐高峰期，此时期延续至一八七五年左右，</font></b><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#4169E1">其後贪腐程度开始回落，一九○○年时已回落至一八二○年的水平。此後，情况进一步改善，至一九七○年代，贪腐程度已跌至一八二○年的一半</font></font><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#4169E1">。</font>在这个研究里，二位教授采用了两套新闻资料中有关政府官员贪腐的记录，其中一套是百多年来每天出版的《纽约时报》，所载贪腐新闻以纽约市发生的为主；另外一套是两百年以来全美中小城市出版的大量地方报纸，所录的是全国各地发生的贪腐案例（这套资料是由专研美国人族谱的网站www.ancestry.com 提供）。研究者发现，两套资料显示出的美国社会贪腐程度走势，几乎完全一样。同一课题，另一位学者R. Menes利用全美十五个最大城市的各届市政府施政记录，研究了一八二○年起这批城市的贪腐程度走势，得出的结果和上述研究相当一致，不同处只是<font class="Apple-style-span" color="#4169E1"><b>美国贪腐水平於一八八○年升至高峰後持平，至一九三○年才开始显着回落。</b></font></p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; word-wrap: normal; word-break: normal; line-height: 24px; "> <wbr></p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; word-wrap: normal; word-break: normal; line-height: 24px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#006400"><b>美国社会贪腐高峰期，与「镀金年代」（1865-1901）基本重叠。</b></font>一八六五年，美国内战结束，联邦政府大量资金投放到南方，以利战後重建；政府批出的合约激增，原来很单薄的监管体制不能应付，贪官污吏见有机可乘，与承办商狼狈为奸，贪腐遂成风气，且是官员政客带头。<b><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#006400">「镀金年代」亦是美国整体国力急促上升的年代，</font></b>尤其是到了後半期，美国产业实力不断提升，出现雄霸一方的各行业巨子，如钢铁业的卡尼基丶石油业的洛克菲勒丶金融业的摩根丶铁路航运业的范德比尔特，等等。至一八八○年，美国整体经济实力首次超越英国，成为世界之最；当时，美国人更开发了一批重要的新技术，包括重型铁路机车丶冷藏车卡丶电话丶电灯等，经济史家称之为「第二次工业革命」。这段时期的经济发展，奠定了美国在二十世纪雄霸世界的基础；其高速增长势头，一直延至二十世纪的一九二九年大萧条，才暂时停止。</p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; word-wrap: normal; word-break: normal; line-height: 24px; "><br></p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; word-wrap: normal; word-break: normal; line-height: 24px; "><br></p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; word-wrap: normal; word-break: normal; line-height: 24px; "><br></p></span></span></div>

xiss 發表於 2010-2-1 12:54:42

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所以话你小朋友即系小朋友。样样限到实晒，「死咕咕」的地方，根本无钱可赚。香港经济打好根基（用制造业积累资本）阶段，啱好就系贪腐最昌盛的六七十年代。直到八十年代先至开始「执正来做」，转型为金融业，制造业大量外移至东莞 ... <br><br>係囖，正如香港六七十年代經濟起飛時，亦都係社會貪腐最嚴重嘅時期。<br><br>所以話內地嘅貪腐同貧富懸殊亦都係社會發展嘅常態，你越南冇么嘢值得標榜比中國優越嘅。<br><br>除非你話，越貪腐越好，噉冇計啦，我中國內地嘅貪腐確實冇你越南咁犀利，的確唔夠你越南「好」<br>

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使君子 發表於 2010-2-1 13:10:49

[转载]当代德国大集团的腐败状况

<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, 宋体, sans-serif; line-height: 23px; "><p style="line-height: 23px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">      最近几年来，德国大型跨国公司丑闻不断。仅一个西门子公司就连续发生了好几起弊案。如Darmstadt案，欧盟Kartell罚款，另外，西门子在列支敦士顿的三个黑金账户中一个取名为「外高桥」。据记录，西门子发电部门曾经在1998年先后分六笔向这个帐户转入四百一十万欧元。让人很容易联想起上海。根据权威杂志《德国经济周刊》报道，<b><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#006400">西门子在天朝的一半业务可能涉嫌行贿案件</font></b>。目前，西门子委任的内部调查小组正在天朝，对西门子的相关业务进行调查。而大众公司的腐败也很夸张。根据德国之声的报道，企业职工会成员被企业领导层所收买，而人事经理达成的「交易」让公司吃了大亏，「损失」高达数百万欧元。最严重的是：大众董事会甚至为企业职工会的成员到国外进行豪华旅游开放了绿灯。作为回报，企业职工会则为董事会的种种决策提供支持。董事会以这种方式批准的私人凭据高达3万欧元。一向以信誉著称的德国企业究竟怎么了，问题的根源究竟在哪里？请看以下综合报道。<br style="line-height: 23px; ">                </span></p><p style="line-height: 23px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">                    大企业与德国政府官员的关系盘根错节<br style="line-height: 23px; "><br></span></p><p style="line-height: 23px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">问题的根源之深，<b><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#8B0000">让那些渴望欧美民主制度的人士大跌眼镜</font></b>。以大众公司为例。大众公司长期以来受到一个几乎无法透视的权力四角的控制：大众企业领导层，金属行业工会，大众企业职工会，以及狼堡市政府和长期以来由基督社民党主导的Niedersachsen州政府。<br style="line-height: 23px; "><br></span></p><p style="line-height: 23px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">政界和汽车Konzern相互讨好。2003年秋季，狼堡曾有7周之久更名为「高尔夫斯堡」（Golfsburg）。大众公司也与州政府保持着「良好关系」。两名州议会议员除了自己的津贴外，长年还能从大众公司获得另一份薪水。<br style="line-height: 23px; "><br></span></p><p style="line-height: 23px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">此外，Niedersachsen州长传统上都是大众企业监视会成员。前任总理施罗德曾于1990年至1997年担任大众监事会成员，过去在职期间他还常常出席大众公司的活动，而且他是首位以大众子公司——奥迪出品的汽车作为自己的公务车的联邦总理。大众公司人事局主管Harz为联邦政府设计社会保障体制改革计划，而他同时又作为金属行业工会的成员达数十年之久。<br style="line-height: 23px; "><br></span></p><p style="line-height: 23px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">德国法院也<b><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#006400">纵容德国跨国公司在海外行贿</font></b>。根据德国之声的报道，德国法院曾经判决，<b><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#006400">为了保持德国企业的竞争力，企业在国外行贿无罪。</font></b><br style="line-height: 23px; ">                     </span></p><p style="line-height: 23px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">                           腐败问题有多严重<br style="line-height: 23px; "><br></span></p><p style="line-height: 23px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">「贪污受贿问题之严重使我们很难一一做调查，百分之百得到调查是不可能的。贪污受贿的犯罪行为一般隐藏得很深，因此要我说，100个受怀疑的贪污受贿案例中最多也就有5个能被查清。」说话的是法兰克福首席检察官及贪污受贿罪调查专家绍潘施泰纳。目前他正忙着调查大众汽车公司和它的一些零配件供应商之间盘根错节的资金来往渠道。正是通过这些渠道，欧洲第二大汽车零配件供应商佛吉亚贿赂过大众汽车公司和奥迪汽车公司采购部门的主管。最后一次的贿赂金额高达60万至80万欧元。由此看来，<b><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#006400">欧美国家的腐败问题一样严重，可以说，最多也就是五十步笑百步的区别了。</font></b><br style="line-height: 23px; "><br></span></p><p style="line-height: 23px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">可能是自我安慰吧，德国之声又说：「以国际范围做比较，德国上市公司还算是比较干净的。反贪污受贿组织－透明国际罗列的一份表格显示，160个国家中德国位居第16位，这表明，其它144个国家的贪污受贿行为比德国还要严重。多年来德国基本上处在这个排列顺序上，只不过会有微软的波动。」天知道这些排名所依据的数据是哪里来的，毕竟<b><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#006400">这些评级机关多是由欧美大财团掌握的，人家要怎么评就怎么评</font></b>。要说真实情况，恐怕也只有用贾府门前石狮子的比喻来说明了：「涉及的人物不是董事会成员就是部门主管。而被揭发出来的人和事还只是其中一小部分，仅仅是冰山一角。」</span></p></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br></span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>==========================</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-large;">你够胆话Made in Germany是劣嘢么？人地产品工艺一向抓得好严！不过在国际市场竞争上，特别是大项目采购，对方政府官员根本唔会理你咁多，净关心自己有无得「提成」，人地问你「意思意思」，你扮晒正直，人地睬鸠你都傻。</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-large;">德国佬原先都系「死咕咕」，撞晒大板，后尾好明显跟过法国同倭国偷师。</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-large;"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-large;">只要对方有能力将件事办得好好睇睇，又使乜计较am4荷包？你涉世未深，今次就当教精你。</span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>

xiss 發表於 2010-2-1 13:13:26

原帖由 <i>使君子</i> 於 2010-2-1 13:10 發表 <a href="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=170506&ptid=20896" target="_blank"><img src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/common/back.gif" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="attachimg(this, 'load')" alt="" border="0"></a>
      最近几年来，德国大型跨国公司丑闻不断。仅一个西门子公司就连续发生了好几起弊案。如Darmstadt案，欧盟Kartell罚款，另外，西门子在列支敦士顿的三个黑金账户中一个取名为「外高桥」。据记录，西门 ... <br>宜家我唔係同你討論腐敗好唔好，而係教精你，無論從邊個角度睇，你越南都冇么嘢好：<br><br>如果腐敗係衰嘅話：你越南嗰種貪腐早就臭名遠播<br><br>如果腐敗有利於經濟發展嘅話：既貪腐經濟又好過你越南嘅國家多多的是，中國、歐美國家，你越南算老幾？<br>

使君子 發表於 2010-2-1 14:09:35

教育时间到

<div><br></div><div><br></div>原帖由 <i>xiss</i> 於 2010-2-1 12:54 發表 <a href="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=170503&ptid=20896" target="_blank"><img src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/common/back.gif" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="attachimg(this, 'load')" alt=""></a> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: rgb(83, 83, 83); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 22px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">你越南冇么嘢值得標榜比中國優越</span></span> <div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">1·房地产。越南每个家庭只要至少有一个人参加工作（合同工）即可获国家免费分配50平方土地，任其起楼。<b><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#006400">越南也允许国民在市区范围自行购地起楼，土地使用权可以代代相传。</font></b>所以越南国民完全唔使担心楼价贵，住得安稳舒心。</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">2·关税。越南政府对于国民走私持「只眼开只眼闭」的态度，海关形同虚设，收唔到税（这也是<b><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#006400">越南公务员薪水低下</font></b>的根本原因），由于无乜扣税，所以好多越南人通过走私大赚特赚，<font class="Apple-style-span" color="#006400"><b>进口商品的价钱也卖得很平</b></font>，形成越南「国贫民富」「藏富于民」的局面。</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">3·产品质量。欧美大企业一致认定，包括越南在内的东南亚国家工厂的代工产品，质量大大高于天朝。你去港澳的商铺行一转就知，全部日用产品电器都系made in thailand/indonesia/vietnam ，你有几何见到made in china上得台面？再有，天朝制造的拖鞋，着唔到两个月就断带，我家中正好有一对越南制造的拖鞋，着了三年，着住落街同人踢波都无问题。</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">4·经济增长方式。十几年以来，越南各项指标的函数图像曲线都是平稳向上（惟有<b><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#006400">贫困率曲线下降坡度大过45度</font></b>），GDP年增长率在5%-7%，而高楼大厦却唔多见增加，政府办公室一样「细细间」，军牌车「旧残皮」，警用车一味摩托多，说明增长出来的钱主要落在乜人手中？相比起身，天朝的增长率大起大落，个函数图像直头唔系曲线，而系「折线」，仲刺激过坐过山车，天朝「公墓猿」的状况我就唔再啰嗦啦。</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br></span></div>

使君子 發表於 2010-2-1 16:09:23

做乜唔出声？点正你死穴？

<br><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: SimSun; line-height: 19px; "><h1 id="topictitle" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 25px; line-height: 36px; display: inline; ">日本经济带给世界的教训（节选）</h1><div class="byline" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; text-align: left; line-height: 19px; color: rgb(119, 119, 119); ">作者：英国《金融时报》首席经济评论员 Martin Wolf <a href="http://www.ftchinese.com/archiver/2010-01-15" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; color: rgb(71, 129, 170); text-decoration: none; ">2010-01-15</a></div></span></div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: SimSun; font-size: 20px; line-height: 35px; ">    别的经济体也可以从日本处吸取教训。它表明，在一个企业储蓄和固定投资水平相当高的追赶型经济体中，当经济从迅速增长变得开始放缓时，需求将非常难以管理。如果</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: SimSun; font-size: 20px; line-height: 35px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#8B0000"><b>刻意推动信贷增长和资产价格泡沫</b></font></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: SimSun; font-size: 20px; line-height: 35px; ">是用以维持国内需求的手段之一，情况只会陷入恶性循环。目前哪个国家需要吸取日本这个重大教训呢？答案是：中国。</span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(50, 62, 50); font-family: Verdana, 宋体, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; "><div class="articalTitle" style="clear: both; line-height: 20px; padding-bottom: 10px; "><span class="titName SG_txta" id="t_604cba540100h77a" style="color: rgb(7, 67, 135); white-space: nowrap; font-size: 18px; font-family: 微软雅黑, 黑体; font-weight: 300; ">Jim Chanos: 中国的房地产泡沫前所未见</span><span class="img2" style="white-space: nowrap; padding-top: 4px; "></span><span class="time SG_txtc" style="color: rgb(99, 113, 96); white-space: nowrap; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 13px; ">(2010-01-26 06:25:38)</span></div><div class="articalTag" style="text-align: auto;width: 690px; clear: both; word-break: break-all; line-height: 20px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#637160" face="宋体"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;"><br></span></font></div><div class="articalContent" style="clear: both; padding-top: 18px; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px; padding-bottom: 30px; word-wrap: normal; word-break: normal; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden; font-family: simsun; ">Jim Chanos认为中国的房地产泡沫前所未见，迟早破灭。目前中国有300亿平方英尺的在建商业地产，已经出现了明显的由流动性（<b><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#8B0000">贵价楼卖唔出温州佬惊住蚀到渣都无得剩晨早开始放盘</font></b>）引发的房地产泡沫，这个泡沫将会破灭。如果泡沫破灭，将会伤及建筑材料、大宗原材料，如铁矿石等。他的依据是中国靠固定资产投资（<b><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#8B0000">猛咁起楼</font></b>）推动GDP的效率已经越来越低。<br><br><h1 style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; "><font style="word-wrap: normal; word-break: normal; line-height: 21px; font-size: 14px; ">Jim Chanos: China's Real Estate Bubble Is Unprecedented</font></h1><br><span style="word-wrap: normal; word-break: normal; line-height: 24px; ">Associate Web Producer, CNBC.com</span><br><br><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; word-wrap: normal; word-break: normal; line-height: 24px; ">The bubble in China's real estate is unprecedented and companies exporting for the country's construction sector should be watched carefully, James Chanos, president and founder of Kynikos Associates, told CNBC Monday.</p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; word-wrap: normal; word-break: normal; line-height: 24px; "><br></p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; word-wrap: normal; word-break: normal; line-height: 24px; ">"<b><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000FF">We are not calling for an impending crash of Shenzhen or of the Shanghai stock market</font></b>, but in particular the bubble that has been blown up in real estate both commercial and residential as well as other forms of fixed asset investment in china is unprecedented," Chanos said.<br></p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; word-wrap: normal; word-break: normal; line-height: 24px; "><br></p>"I do see all of the signs of a credit induced real estate bubble that i think is going to be a doozy," he added.<br><br><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; word-wrap: normal; word-break: normal; line-height: 24px; ">He said there are about 30 billion square feet of space in construction only in the commercial property sector.</p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; word-wrap: normal; word-break: normal; line-height: 24px; "><br></p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; word-wrap: normal; word-break: normal; line-height: 24px; ">If the bubble were to burst, it would hurt the building materials sectors and the commodity plays in the Western world, the sectors where demand depends on the Chinese construction market, according to Chanos. <wbr></p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; word-wrap: normal; word-break: normal; line-height: 24px; "><br></p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; word-wrap: normal; word-break: normal; line-height: 24px; ">"Looking at companies, I'd be very leery of companies who are exporting materials to China to build up this construction bubble," he added.</p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; word-wrap: normal; word-break: normal; line-height: 24px; "><br></p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; word-wrap: normal; word-break: normal; line-height: 24px; ">Fixed investment is forecast to reach 60 percent of Chinese gross domestic product this year, up from around 50 percent, he said.</p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; word-wrap: normal; word-break: normal; line-height: 24px; "><br></p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; word-wrap: normal; word-break: normal; line-height: 24px; ">After World War II, <b><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#8B0000">the Soviet Union</font></b>, <b><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#006400">Germany</font></b> <font class="Apple-style-span" color="#8B0000"><b>and Japan</b></font> grew very rapidly using fixed investment, but <font class="Apple-style-span" color="#006400"><b>only Germany managed to use inputs more efficiently until nowadays</b></font>, Chanos explained.<br></p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; word-wrap: normal; word-break: normal; line-height: 24px; "><br></p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; word-wrap: normal; word-break: normal; line-height: 24px; ">"In China, what we've seen is more and more fixed investment is needed for a dollar of GDP so they're getting less efficient, not more," he said.</p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; word-wrap: normal; word-break: normal; line-height: 24px; "><br></p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; word-wrap: normal; word-break: normal; line-height: 24px; ">A Chinese government researched said Monday that the country's GDP was likely to grow about 9.5 percent in 2010, largely due to strong domestic consumption and corporate investment.</p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; word-wrap: normal; word-break: normal; line-height: 24px; "><br></p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; word-wrap: normal; word-break: normal; line-height: 24px; ">"In China GDP is quite a bit of a different thing, <b><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#8B0000">very similar to the good old Soviet Union</font></b>." Chanos said.</p></div></span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.jsmedia.tv/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=78140">http://www.jsmedia.tv/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=78140</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 19px; "><span style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 19px; font-weight: bold; ">《郎教授对Jim Chanos 中国泡沫论如何看?》（</span><span style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; font-size: 19px; font-weight: bold; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#8B0000">26号的提问，郎咸平至今仍未回复，说明什么？</font></span><span style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 19px; font-weight: bold; ">）<br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "></span><div id="postmessage_505113" class="t_msgfont" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: 1.6em; font-size: 16px; "><span style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; padding-left: 28px; "> </span>Jim Chanos 是华尔街的做空投机大师.  他曾经很早看穿Enron假帐, 并一举做空, 为他的对冲基金赚了很多钱, 最近他高调发表言论, 说中国都是泡沫. </div><div id="postmessage_505113" class="t_msgfont" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: 1.6em; font-size: 16px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 25px;"><br style="word-wrap: break-word; "></span>中国的经济数据, 比如GDP高增长也是假帐目. 他举一个简单例子, 汽车销售2008增加70%, 但是<b><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#8B0000">汽油销售没有增加多少</font></b>, 这是不可能的.<br style="word-wrap: break-word; "><br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; ">郎教授, 对此有啥评论?　</div></span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>

teeth 發表於 2010-2-1 16:18:17

<P>是广府的女人往越南卖呢还是越南的女人往广府卖？</P>
<P>这么简单的道理长着眼睛的人都看得清楚<IMG alt="" src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/smilies/default/lol.gif" border=0 smilieid="12"> </P>

xiss 發表於 2010-2-1 17:56:12

原帖由 <i>teeth</i> 於 2010-2-1 16:18 發表 <a href="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=170519&ptid=20896" target="_blank"><img src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/common/back.gif" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="attachimg(this, 'load')" alt="" border="0"></a>
是广府的女人往越南卖呢还是越南的女人往广府卖？
这么简单的道理长着眼睛的人都看得清楚<br><br>可惜屎棍子呢條友隻眼就係盲嘅，成日鳩噏當呼吸，作埋曬啲大話出嚟呃人。屎棍子有句名言，就係講嘢唔使靠事實，靠鳩噏自己啲feeling就得咖喇，請睇：<br><br><a href="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/viewthread.php?tid=20741&page=1#pid169928">http://bbs.cantonese.asia/viewthread.php?tid=20741&page=1#pid169928</a><br>

xiss 發表於 2010-2-1 18:23:07

越南經濟真係好掂咩？唔好信屎棍子鳩噏

<span style="color: DarkRed;">越南經濟真係好掂咩？唔好信屎棍子鳩噏，我一谷歌，就搜到咗呢啲醒目標題：</span><br><br><br><br><span style="color: DarkRed;">轉載其中一篇：</span><br><a href="http://www.create.hk/archives/232">http://www.create.hk/archives/232</a><br><br><div style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold;"><font size="7"><span style="color: Blue;">越南經濟面臨空前危機<br></span></font><font style="color: Black;" size="7"><font size="3"><br></font></font><div style="text-align: left;"><font style="color: Black;" size="7"><font size="3">     越南經濟近期出現惡性通貨膨脹、貨幣大幅貶值等問題，這引發了人們的憂慮，有人擔憂這可能成為新一輪亞洲金融危機的導火索。越南官方公佈的5月份的最新通脹資料為25.2%，這個數位較4月份的21.4%又有所惡化。與此同時，越南貨幣越南盾出現大幅貶值，5月30日的最新匯率為1美元兌16086越南盾，居民開始搶購美元和黃金，越南盾開始成為燙手山芋。為應對通脹和貨幣貶值，越南央行大幅提升基準利率至12%，這戳破了越南股市的泡沫。胡志明市證券交易所此前宣佈，由於「技術原因」，自5月27日起休市三天，30日恢復交易後，越南股指繼續下跌，跌幅為1.52%。越南經濟目前的一系列亂象與亞洲金融危機前泰國經濟的情況不無相似之處，標普、惠譽等機構也紛紛下調越南的主權信用評級至負面，越南經濟問題會否成為新一輪亞洲金融危機的導火索呢，潘大今天就與大家聊聊這個話題。</font></font><br><br style="color: Black;"></div><div style="text-align: left;"><font style="color: Black;" size="7"><font size="3">　　<font size="4"><span style="color: Blue;">越南經濟的泡沫繁榮</span></font></font></font><br><br style="color: Black;"><font style="color: Black;" size="7"><font size="3">　　<span style="color: Blue;">越南自上世紀90年代開始實施「社會主義定向」改革後發展速度很快。2006年越共十大通過政治體制改革的報告後，越南更是獲得了廣大西方社會的一致「讚譽」。</span></font></font><br style="color: Blue;"><br style="color: Blue;"><font style="color: Blue;" size="7"><font size="3">　　一時間，越南仿佛成為了發展中國家經濟發展的典範，「搶中國製造業的飯碗」之類的報導鋪天蓋地、屢見不鮮，媒體的集中轟炸使得許多中國居民也認為「中國很多方面應該向越南學習」。<br><br></font></font><font style="color: Blue;" size="7"><font size="3">　　<font size="5">但從2008年開始，這類報導仿佛突然間就銷聲匿跡了</font>。</font></font><br><br style="color: Black;"><font style="color: Black;" size="7"><font size="3">　　越南股市從去年的超過1000點，跌到了5月30日的414點，<font style="color: Red;" size="5">跌幅超過了一半。</font></font></font><br><font size="7"><span style="color: Blue;"></span></font></div><font size="7"><span style="color: Blue;"><br><font style="font-style: italic; color: Gray;" size="3">越南CPI指數最近一年走勢</font><br></span></font></div><br>      <span style="font-weight: bold; color: Blue;">越南通脹率水準進入了不可接受的地步，越南居民搶兌美元，越南銀行拒絕兌換，他們就搶購黃金！</span><br><br>　　胡志明市的房價也出現暴跌，銀行壞賬已不可避免。摩根士丹利認為，放貸標準不嚴格可能導致越南出現銀行業危機。<br><br>　　<span style="color: Blue; font-weight: bold;">伴隨越南經濟亂象的是，越南社會也出現了不穩定的跡象。</span><br><br>　　<font style="font-weight: bold;" size="5"><span style="color: Blue;">越南經濟泡沫破滅</span></font>引發的種種問題開始引發了全球、特別是亞洲各國的擔憂。<span style="color: SeaGreen; font-style: italic;">（么屎棍子唔係話好平穩個咩？咁平穩都原來係泡沫嚟咖咋？噉睇嚟越南呢個泡沫都泡沫得好可憐喔</span><img style="color: SeaGreen; font-style: italic;" smilieid="9" src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/smilies/default/titter.gif" border="0"><span style="color: SeaGreen; font-style: italic;">）</span><br><br>　<font style="color: DarkRed;" size="4">　農德孟想抓哪根稻草</font><br><br>　　在越南經濟進入最危險時刻之際，越共書記農德孟來到了北京。<br><br>　　農德孟在與胡錦濤總書記會見時強調了中越「同志加兄弟」的傳統友好關係。<br><br>　　農德孟認為，中越關係是「胡志明主席、毛澤東主席親自締造，兩党兩國歷代領導人精心培育，是越中兩黨、兩國和兩國人民的無價之寶。」<br><br>　　農德孟此前也多次來到中國，但這是其首次將中越「同志加兄弟」關係加以如此強調。<br><br>　　種種跡象表明，農德孟此行是不包括在中國原計劃的外事日程範圍內的。外交部網站截至目前為止無相關報導。中聯部網站僅在首頁有一篇不到100字的簡要報導，中聯部網站「來出訪預報」欄目沒有農德孟來訪的相關預報。此外，農德孟的來訪時間與李明博、吳伯雄等衝突，也顯示出這極可能是臨時的安排。<br><br>　　<span style="color: Blue; font-weight: bold;">這些都表明，越方高層目前對越南國內經濟形勢心急如焚，越方試圖抓住中國作救命稻草，要求中國提供幫助。</span><span style="color: Green; font-style: italic;">（經濟如果真係咁好嘅話，使鬼向中國求援？唔知屎棍子成日話越南經濟點樣點樣比中國好，係鳩噏定喺道呼吸呢？）</span><br><br>　　潘大認為，越南方面要求的援助方式，可能包括外匯支援。現在越南的主權信用評級已經是負面了，在國際上其他地方是借不到錢的，資本又在外流，外匯儲備吃緊。其次，越方可能要求中方進行視窗指導，避免中資和港資的瘋狂出逃。中國內地、香港、臺灣，是越南FDI的主要來源。<br><br>　　<font size="5"><span style="color: Blue;">越南盾貶值</span></font><font style="font-weight: bold;" size="4"><span style="color: DarkRed;">會否引發新亞洲金融危機</span></font><span style="color: SeaGreen; font-style: italic;">（越南盾貶值？噉阿越南五毛黨「屎棍子」使唔使加工資呢</span><img style="color: SeaGreen; font-style: italic;" smilieid="9" src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/smilies/default/titter.gif" border="0"><span style="color: SeaGreen; font-style: italic;">）</span><br><br>　　越南目前的情況與亞洲金融危機前泰國的情況有一定的類似，包括資本出逃、貿易赤字、貨幣貶值壓力等。<br><br>　　但越南的資本流出和越南盾貶值可能並不會引發新一輪亞洲金融危機。但越南本國的經濟則不能逃脫衝擊影響。<br><br>　　此次危機不同於97年的泰國，97年正是美國經濟高速發展期，網路泡沫開始形成。由於泰國當局的財經政策失當，導致危機先於美國爆發。在亞洲金融危機爆發三年後，美國網路泡沫才開始破滅。<br><br>　　越南的經濟危機，則只是全球次級債危機下的一個縮影。<span style="color: Blue; font-weight: bold;">由於越南市場經濟轉型還處在初期，經濟體整體的彈性較差，當局的財經政策制定水準也還需要進一步提高。</span><br><br>　　需要指出的是，<span style="color: Blue; font-weight: bold;">前期越南經濟政策有「超印趕中」的傾向，這為越南經濟整體來說積累了風險。相比之下，中國較早就展開了針對固定資產投資過熱的宏觀調控政策，因此經濟總體來講，並未大起大落。</span><span style="color: SeaGreen; font-style: italic;">（噉意味著到底係中國人識得玩經濟定係越南人識得玩呢？？我覺得越南宜家似畀經濟玩多啲囉）</span><br><br>　　華盛頓共識（Washington Consensus）要求新興經濟體要以出口為導向，不必建立全面的國民經濟體系（如重工業部門），這也為越南經濟危機埋下了伏筆。<br><br>　　美國次級債危機大背景下的越南經濟危機，可能難以導致全亞洲經濟的震盪。<br><br>　　越南如能遏制資本流出趨勢，並加大反通脹力量，則越南盾貶值的短期壓力會減小。從公開報導我們知道，越南方面也正在這樣努力。<br><br>　　另一個潛在風險也不容忽視。<span style="color: Blue; font-weight: bold;">越共十大制定的的政治導向，頗有我國80年代「資產階級自由化」的遺風。越南社會風波的苗頭已經乍現，不能排除越南社會由於通貨膨脹等經濟問題引發較大風波的可能性。</span><span style="font-style: italic; color: SeaGreen;">（越南LOOK SEA？情況同當時80年代後期嘅中國真係好似喔，噉換言之，論經濟，越南至少比中國落後廿年）</span><br><br>　　綜上，潘大認為，<font style="font-weight: bold;" size="6"><span style="color: Blue;">越南經濟正面臨空前的困局</span>，</font>但這難以導致全面的亞洲金融危機。不過，越南的通脹問題可能提醒包括中國在內的各國貨幣當局更加關注通脹控制，中國再次加息27個基點的可能性因此升高。此外，部分對越南等發展中國家出口占收入比重較大的行業可能受到較大影響，如摩托車行業。潘大認為，美國次級債危機蘊含全球經濟的深層次問題，而並非美國住房市場的單一問題。目前，以美國金融業危機為代表的次級債危機第一階段已基本過去，投資者需更為關注次貸危機二三階段的衝擊。<br><br><br><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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teeth 發表於 2010-2-1 21:52:27

<P>原帖由 <I>xiss</I> 於 2010-2-1 17:56 發表 <A href="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=170526&ptid=20896" target=_blank><IMG onclick=zoom(this) alt="" src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/common/back.gif" onload="attachimg(this, 'load')" border=0></A> 可惜屎棍子呢條友隻眼就係盲嘅，成日鳩噏當呼吸，作埋曬啲大話出嚟呃人。屎棍子有句名言，就係講嘢唔使靠事實，靠鳩噏自己啲feeling就得咖喇，請睇：http://bbs.cantonese.asia/viewthread.php?tid=20741&page=1#pid169928 ... </P>
<P>这根搅屎棍六天前在中恐上的发言</P>
<P>http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz319/freesky_fdu/c493081e.jpg</P>
<P>真真放p也不脸红</P>
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<P>再者O1啥时候成了东南亚基因了？</P>
<P>莫说北方那群布里亚特人和东南亚没关系，就算是台湾原始的O1族群也与低阔面的搅屎棍同族差异巨大，更别说波利尼西亚人压根连黄种人的大门都挤不进。现代马来人无非是原始O1族群征服南岛诸土著的结果。</P>
<P>原始O1</P>
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<P>屎壳郎的越南同胞</P>
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使君子 發表於 2010-2-1 22:22:12

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color: rgb(34, 0, 204); ">高盛集团：2010年<em style="color: rgb(204, 0, 51); font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; ">越南经济</em>增长8.2%</a></h3><span style="display: inline-block; "></span><div class="s" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; max-width: 42em; line-height: 1.54; ">据越南《西贡解放报》12月7日报道，高盛集团最近公布的<em style="color: rgb(204, 0, 51); font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; ">越南经济</em>报告预测，2010年<em style="color: rgb(204, 0, 51); font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; ">越南</em><wbr><em style="color: rgb(204, 0, 51); font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; ">经济</em>将增长8.2%。报告认为，二季度以来，<em style="color: rgb(204, 0, 51); font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; ">越南经济</em>的增长主要利益于国内需求的拉动 <b>...</b><br><cite style="color: green; font-style: normal; ">chinasourcing.mofcom.gov.cn/content2.jsp?id=62301 - </cite><span class="gl" style="color: rgb(119, 119, 204); white-space: nowrap; "><a href="http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache:variknZhZCAJ:chinasourcing.mofcom.gov.cn/content2.jsp%3Fid%3D62301+%E8%B6%8A%E5%8D%97%E7%BB%8F%E6%B5%8E&cd=14&hl=zh-CN&ct=clnk" target="_blank" onmousedown="return clk('http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache:variknZhZCAJ:chinasourcing.mofcom.gov.cn/content2.jsp%3Fid%3D62301+%E8%B6%8A%E5%8D%97%E7%BB%8F%E6%B5%8E&cd=14&hl=zh-CN&ct=clnk','','','clnk','14','&sig2=waGTV4YkZ83zlnkxyCWqWw')" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; 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color: rgb(34, 0, 204); ">VOVNEWS.VN | Citigroup: <em style="color: rgb(204, 0, 51); font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; ">Vietnam's economy</em> stronger than expected <b style="text-decoration: underline; ">...</b></a></h3><span style="display: inline-block; "></span><span class="std nobr" style="font-size: small; font-family: arial, sans-serif; white-space: nowrap; line-height: 18px; "> - [ <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=zh-CN&sl=en&u=http://english.vovnews.vn/Home/Citigroup-Vietnams-economy-stronger-than-expected/20101/111481.vov&ei=zeJmS7i0D4qgkQW3gMHrDw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CC8Q7gEwBQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dvietnamese%2Beconomy%26hl%3Dzh-CN%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG%26num%3D30%26newwindow%3D1" class="fl" target="_blank" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 204); ">翻译此页</a> ]</span><div class="s" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; max-width: 42em; line-height: 1.54; ">6 Jan 2010 <b>...</b> <em style="color: rgb(204, 0, 51); font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; ">Vietnam's economic</em> growth in the fourth quarter of 2009 exceeded market expectations and the country's annual growth was stronger than the <b>...</b><br><cite style="color: green; font-style: normal; ">english.vovnews.vn/Home/...<b>Vietnam</b>s-<b>economy</b>.../111481.vov - </cite><span class="gl" style="color: rgb(119, 119, 204); white-space: nowrap; "><a href="http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache:IZ8XImAQ_FQJ:english.vovnews.vn/Home/Citigroup-Vietnams-economy-stronger-than-expected/20101/111481.vov+vietnamese+economy&cd=6&hl=zh-CN&ct=clnk" target="_blank" onmousedown="return clk(this.href,'','','clnk','6','&sig2=lwfNVXiHg0ByJrBR44zKPw')" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 204); ">网页快照</a> -</span></div><div class="s" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; max-width: 42em; line-height: 1.54; "><span class="gl" style="color: rgb(119, 119, 204); white-space: nowrap; "><br></span></div><div class="s" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; max-width: 42em; line-height: 1.54; "><span class="gl" style="color: rgb(119, 119, 204); white-space: nowrap; "><br></span></div><div class="s" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; max-width: 42em; line-height: 1.54; "><span class="gl" style="color: rgb(119, 119, 204); white-space: nowrap; "><br></span></div><div class="s" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; max-width: 42em; line-height: 1.54; "><span class="gl" style="color: rgb(119, 119, 204); white-space: nowrap; "><br></span></div><div class="s" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; max-width: 42em; line-height: 1.54; "><span class="gl" style="color: rgb(119, 119, 204); white-space: nowrap; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); white-space: normal; line-height: 19px; "><h3 class="r" style="font-size: medium; font-weight: normal; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; display: inline; line-height: 1; "><a href="http://www.businessweek.com/news/2009-12-31/vietnam-s-economy-grows-6-9-fastest-pace-this-year-update1-.html" target="_blank" class="l" onmousedown="return clk(this.href,'','','res','12','&sig2=4AkKEcn5a_5mTYP4PKQmbQ','0CFYQFjAL')" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 0, 204); "><em style="color: rgb(204, 0, 51); font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; ">Vietnam's Economy</em> Grows 6.9%, Fastest Pace This Year (Update1 <b style="text-decoration: underline; ">...</b></a></h3><span style="display: inline-block; "></span><span class="std nobr" style="font-size: small; font-family: arial, sans-serif; white-space: nowrap; line-height: 18px; "> - [ <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=zh-CN&sl=en&u=http://www.businessweek.com/news/2009-12-31/vietnam-s-economy-grows-6-9-fastest-pace-this-year-update1-.html&ei=zeJmS7i0D4qgkQW3gMHrDw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=12&ved=0CFcQ7gEwCw&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dvietnamese%2Beconomy%26hl%3Dzh-CN%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG%26num%3D30%26newwindow%3D1" class="fl" target="_blank" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 204); ">翻译此页</a> ]</span><div class="s" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; max-width: 42em; line-height: 1.54; ">31 Dec 2009 <b>...</b> <em style="color: rgb(204, 0, 51); font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; ">Vietnam's economy</em> expanded at the fastest pace in more than a year in the fourth quarter as lending growth fueled construction and consumer <b>...</b><br><cite style="color: green; font-style: normal; ">www.businessweek.com/.../<b>vietnam</b>-s-<b>economy</b>-grows-6-9-fastest-pace-this-<wbr>year-update1-.html - </cite><span class="gl" style="color: rgb(119, 119, 204); white-space: nowrap; "><a href="http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache:u4cfKORnoGcJ:www.businessweek.com/news/2009-12-31/vietnam-s-economy-grows-6-9-fastest-pace-this-year-update1-.html+vietnamese+economy&cd=12&hl=zh-CN&ct=clnk" target="_blank" onmousedown="return clk(this.href,'','','clnk','12','&sig2=ZYRHFYrPDMSfy6OyVeSgbw')" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 204); ">网页快照</a> -</span></div></span></span></div><div class="s" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; max-width: 42em; line-height: 1.54; "><span class="gl" style="color: rgb(119, 119, 204); white-space: nowrap; "><br></span></div><div class="s" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; max-width: 42em; line-height: 1.54; "><span class="gl" style="color: rgb(119, 119, 204); white-space: nowrap; "><br></span></div><div class="s" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; max-width: 42em; line-height: 1.54; "><span class="gl" style="color: rgb(119, 119, 204); white-space: nowrap; "><br></span></div><div class="s" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; max-width: 42em; line-height: 1.54; "><span class="gl" style="color: rgb(119, 119, 204); white-space: nowrap; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); white-space: normal; line-height: 19px; "><h3 class="r" style="font-size: medium; font-weight: normal; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; display: inline; line-height: 1; "><a href="http://sg.news.yahoo.com/afp/20100113/tbs-vietnam-singapore-economy-property-b-0b9af05.html" target="_blank" class="l" onmousedown="return clk(this.href,'','','res','13','&sig2=3v7ursjrSYaZQZv8bGjm6w','0CFsQFjAM')" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 0, 204); "><em style="color: rgb(204, 0, 51); font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; ">Vietnam</em>, Singapore boost <em style="color: rgb(204, 0, 51); font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; ">economic</em> ties with deal flurry - Yahoo <b style="text-decoration: underline; ">...</b></a></h3><span style="display: inline-block; "></span><span class="std nobr" style="font-size: small; font-family: arial, sans-serif; white-space: nowrap; line-height: 18px; "> - [ <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=zh-CN&sl=en&u=http://sg.news.yahoo.com/afp/20100113/tbs-vietnam-singapore-economy-property-b-0b9af05.html&ei=zeJmS7i0D4qgkQW3gMHrDw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=13&ved=0CFwQ7gEwDA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dvietnamese%2Beconomy%26hl%3Dzh-CN%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG%26num%3D30%26newwindow%3D1" class="fl" target="_blank" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 204); ">翻译此页</a> ]</span><div class="s" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; max-width: 42em; line-height: 1.54; ">13 Jan 2010 <b>...</b> Firms from <em style="color: rgb(204, 0, 51); font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; ">Vietnam</em> and Singapore, including property giant CapitaLand and banking group DBS, signed deals Tuesday aimed at boosting close <b>...</b><br><cite style="color: green; font-style: normal; ">sg.news.yahoo.com/.../tbs-<b>vietnam</b>-singapore-<b>economy</b>-property-b-0b9af05.<wbr>html -</cite><span class="gl" style="color: rgb(119, 119, 204); white-space: nowrap; "><a href="http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache:k586thrZUScJ:sg.news.yahoo.com/afp/20100113/tbs-vietnam-singapore-economy-property-b-0b9af05.html+vietnamese+economy&cd=13&hl=zh-CN&ct=clnk" target="_blank" onmousedown="return clk(this.href,'','','clnk','13','&sig2=qItUv4zDMnCMtHo-6MKxqw')" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 204); ">网页快照</a> -</span></div></span></span></div><div class="s" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; max-width: 42em; line-height: 1.54; "><span class="gl" style="color: rgb(119, 119, 204); white-space: nowrap; "><br></span></div><div class="s" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; max-width: 42em; line-height: 1.54; "><span class="gl" style="color: rgb(119, 119, 204); white-space: nowrap; "><br></span></div><div class="s" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; max-width: 42em; line-height: 1.54; "><span class="gl" style="color: rgb(119, 119, 204); white-space: nowrap; "><br></span></div></span></div><div class="s" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; max-width: 42em; line-height: 1.54; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 19px; "><h3 class="r" style="font-size: medium; font-weight: normal; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; display: inline; line-height: 1; "><a href="http://journal.harveynash.com/offshore/2010/01/vietnam_economy_strengthens.html" target="_blank" class="l" onmousedown="return clk(this.href,'','','res','16','&sig2=ZmrV1HSTUZl5wwXW8nOH6A','0CGgQFjAP')" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 0, 204); ">Offshore Software Outsourcing: <em style="color: rgb(204, 0, 51); font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; ">Vietnam Economy</em> Strengthens</a></h3><span style="display: inline-block; "></span><span class="std nobr" style="font-size: small; font-family: arial, sans-serif; white-space: nowrap; line-height: 18px; "> - [ <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=zh-CN&sl=en&u=http://journal.harveynash.com/offshore/2010/01/vietnam_economy_strengthens.html&ei=zeJmS7i0D4qgkQW3gMHrDw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=16&ved=0CGkQ7gEwDw&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dvietnamese%2Beconomy%26hl%3Dzh-CN%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG%26num%3D30%26newwindow%3D1" class="fl" target="_blank" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 204); ">翻译此页</a> ]</span><div class="s" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; max-width: 42em; line-height: 1.54; ">4 Jan 2010 <b>...</b> <em style="color: rgb(204, 0, 51); font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; ">Vietnam</em> saw its <em style="color: rgb(204, 0, 51); font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; ">economy</em> grow by 6.9% in the final three months of 2009. The government stated that the country 「was passed the most <b>...</b><br><cite style="color: green; font-style: normal; ">journal.harveynash.com/.../<b>vietnam</b>_<b>economy</b>_strengthens.html - </cite><span class="gl" style="color: rgb(119, 119, 204); white-space: nowrap; "><a href="http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache:lci3NKDTkJsJ:journal.harveynash.com/offshore/2010/01/vietnam_economy_strengthens.html+vietnamese+economy&cd=16&hl=zh-CN&ct=clnk" target="_blank" onmousedown="return clk(this.href,'','','clnk','16','&sig2=Hjqnma0CJbjIdlBpkvhGzw')" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 204); ">网页快照</a> </span></div><div class="s" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; max-width: 42em; line-height: 1.54; "><span class="gl" style="color: rgb(119, 119, 204); white-space: nowrap; "><br></span></div><div class="s" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; max-width: 42em; line-height: 1.54; "><span class="gl" style="color: rgb(119, 119, 204); white-space: nowrap; "><br></span></div><div class="s" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; max-width: 42em; line-height: 1.54; "><span class="gl" style="color: rgb(119, 119, 204); white-space: nowrap; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial; white-space: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: 15px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><h2 class="title" style="line-height: 1.2em; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 1.34em; font-weight: normal; "><a target="_blank" class="usg-AFQjCNGOfDGUtpMTzDYN9zqI9-P3fuF1jQ sig2-_GbexpLwOWkSQk0z9lfrFw " href="http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/business/news/article_1530034.php/Vietnam-industrial-output-and-exports-up-28-per-cent-in-January" id="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 204); "><b>Vietnam</b> industrial output and exports up 28 per cent in January</a></h2><div class="sub-title" style="padding-bottom: 2px; font-size: 1em; "><span class="source" style="white-space: normal; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); padding-left: 0px; ">Monsters and Critics.com</span> - <span class="date " style="white-space: nowrap; ">‎6小时前‎</span></div><div class="body"><div class="snippet" style="font-size: 1em; line-height: 18px; ">Hanoi - Revised statistics for January showed <b>Vietnam's economy</b> continuing its strong recovery, government officials said Monday. <b>...</b></div></div></span></span></div><div class="s" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; max-width: 42em; line-height: 1.54; "><span class="gl" style="color: rgb(119, 119, 204); white-space: nowrap; "><br></span></div><div class="s" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; max-width: 42em; line-height: 1.54; "><span class="gl" style="color: rgb(119, 119, 204); white-space: nowrap; "><br></span></div><div class="s" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; max-width: 42em; line-height: 1.54; "><span class="gl" style="color: rgb(119, 119, 204); white-space: nowrap; "><br></span></div><div class="s" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; max-width: 42em; line-height: 1.54; "><span class="gl" style="color: rgb(119, 119, 204); white-space: nowrap; "><br></span></div></span></div><div class="s" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; max-width: 42em; line-height: 1.54; "><br></div></span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small; border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 20px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><br></span></div>

xiss 發表於 2010-2-1 22:25:06

原帖由 <i>teeth</i> 於 2010-2-1 21:52 發表 <a href="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=170566&ptid=20896" target="_blank"><img src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/common/back.gif" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="attachimg(this, 'load')" alt="" border="0"></a>

这根搅屎棍六天前在中恐上的发言
http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz319/freesky_fdu/c493081e.jpg
真真放p也不脸红
 
再者O1啥时候成了东南亚基因了？
莫说北方那群布里亚特人和东南亚没关系，就算是台湾原始 ... <br><br>哈哈，類似嘅言論佢都有喺本壇道發表，請睇：<br><a href="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/viewthread.php?tid=20741&page=1#pid169928">http://bbs.cantonese.asia/viewthread.php?tid=20741&page=1#pid169928</a><br><br>呢隻屎棍子唔係喺恐龍網畀人禁言個咩？<br>

teeth 發表於 2010-2-1 22:32:18

<P>原帖由 <I>使君子</I> 於 2010-2-1 22:22 發表 <A href="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=170569&ptid=20896" target=_blank><IMG onclick=zoom(this) alt="" src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/common/back.gif" onload="attachimg(this, 'load')" border=0></A> 我喜用Google.com，你喜用G.cn？http://www.google.com/search?q=越南经济越南经济长期发展前景仍然看好‎ - 8小时前据越南政府网站1月29日报道，英国《经济学者》（The Economist）公布的经济信息分析报告显示，外国投资者 ... </P>
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<P>google com 关键词用中文？<IMG alt="" src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/smilies/default/lol.gif" border=0 smilieid="12"> </P>
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<P>顺便这么好怎么越南女人上赶着嫁苏北人啊？</P>
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<P>哦对了照你的yy是与长三角基因交流。不知道苏北人啥时候入长三角籍了？<IMG alt="" src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/smilies/default/lol.gif" border=0 smilieid="12"> </P>
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[ 本帖最後由 teeth 於 2010-2-1 22:35 編輯 ]

xiss 發表於 2010-2-1 22:35:54

呵呵，屎棍子真搞笑，我搜中國經濟，都搵到如下文章喔：<br><br><ol><li class="g"><h3 class="r"><a href="http://news.google.com.tw/news?hl=zh-TW&q=%E4%B8%AD%E5%9B%BD%E7%BB%8F%E6%B5%8E&oq=&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=UuZmS8iHNo6OkQWvwbjrDw&sa=X&oi=news_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBIQsQQwAA"><em>中国经济</em>的相關新聞</a></h3><div class="s"><table class="ts"><tbody><tr><td style="padding-top: 5px; padding-right: 10px; font-size: 78%; line-height: normal; width: 80px; text-align: center;" valign="top"><a href="http://www.google.com.tw/url?q=http://www.bbc.co.uk/zhongwen/trad/china/2010/01/100129_davos_likeqiang.shtml&ei=UuZmS8iHNo6OkQWvwbjrDw&sa=X&oi=news_group&resnum=1&ct=image&ved=0CBAQpwIwAA&usg=AFQjCNHXe-xGyb0wOT06ZILUHetnSrIFjg" style="text-decoration: none;"><img src="http://news.google.com.tw/news/tbn/bYIwNRyCbhcJ" alt="" border="1" width="80" height="60"><br><span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></a></td><td style="padding-top: 3px;" valign="top"><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/zhongwen/trad/china/2010/01/100129_davos_likeqiang.shtml" class="l" onmousedown="return clk(0,'news_result','','res','1','','0CAcQqQIwAA')">李克強為<em>中國經濟</em>政策辯護</a>‎ - 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xiss 發表於 2010-2-1 22:39:46

認真爆笑，我入使生畀我嗰個網址：<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=%E8%B6%8A%E5%8D%97%E7%BB%8F%E6%B5%8E">http://www.google.com/search?q=越南经济</a><br><br><br>第一時間見到如下截圖喔：<br><br><br>

[ 本帖最後由 xiss 於 2010-2-1 22:43 編輯 ]

不关云和月 發表於 2010-2-1 22:40:12

中国呢？

xiss 發表於 2010-2-1 22:45:16

原帖由 <i>不关云和月</i> 於 2010-2-1 22:40 發表 <a href="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=170579&ptid=20896" target="_blank"><img src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/common/back.gif" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="attachimg(this, 'load')" alt="" border="0"></a>
中国呢？ <br><br>不過係想講明，越南經濟唔見得有咩咁巴閉，屎棍子講到越南係天堂中國係地獄，簡直就係鳩噏多過呼吸<br>

不关云和月 發表於 2010-2-1 22:51:10

晕，原来个题目系开畀使君子咖？行错地方先，有怪莫怪<IMG alt="" src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/smilies/default/lol.gif" border=0 smilieid="12">

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