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Ψ丹尼王子 發表於 2010-1-30 20:58:32

<DIV class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_62442><FONT size=4><STRONG>等收購丟空變劏房</STRONG><STRONG>收租</STRONG></FONT><BR><BR><FONT size=3>【本報訊】九龍城、大角咀及深水埗等地區舊樓林立，當中不乏擁四十至五十年樓齡的唐樓。區內地產代理均稱，類似塌樓慘劇中的舊唐樓大多是發展商收購目標，故業主寧願丟空都甚少出售，希望一朝被人收購可取回較高回報，而在此段等候收購的日子，大部分舊樓單位便遭分割成劏房，租客以低收入人士為主，部分更成為鳳樓集中地。 <BR><BR><STRONG>租客多低收入人士</STRONG><BR><BR>紅磡區地產代理公司東主劉先生表示，區內大部分舊樓都至少有四十年樓齡，買賣市道疲弱，業主以本地人為主，通常都是買入放租，或是等候發展商收購，甚少自住。他指舊樓的租務市場十分活躍，業主一般會將單位劃分為套房或板間房，以增加租金收入，現時板間房的租金約每月一千六百元，套房租金為每月二千五百元。他坦言，舊樓租客以低收入人士為主，如新移民、剛踏入社會的年輕人或新婚夫婦，部分租客更是「一樓一」<FONT color=blue size=2>(一屋一個)</FONT>的鳳姐。<BR><BR>深水埗物業代理洪麗英亦擔心塌樓慘劇會打擊唐樓的租賃市場，「我聽到都成個嚇呆咗，買家同租客心理上都會有影響，我諗短期效應生意會少一至兩成。」</FONT></DIV>

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Ψ丹尼王子 發表於 2010-1-30 21:00:17

<DIV class=t_msgfont><FONT size=4><STRONG>死傷者賠償可民事追討</STRONG></FONT><BR><BR><FONT size=3>【本報訊】土瓜灣塌樓事件導致人命傷亡責任誰屬引起關注，法律界人士梁永鏗指，業主及法團負上「管有及維修」大廈責任，大廈管理公司則有「管理」大廈的責任，故今次事件死傷者可分別循民事向三者追討賠償，若涉事物業無法團及管理公司，則全部責任將落在業主，保險業界指大廈全險及家居財物保險，以至第三者責任保均可賠償事件中各方損失，但此三類保險現時皆非法例強制購買的保險。 <BR><BR><STRONG>買「全險」</STRONG></FONT><FONT size=3><FONT color=blue size=2>(全保険)</FONT><STRONG>不包家具損失</STRONG><BR><BR>由於今次事件據稱與其中一個單位的裝修工程可能有關，梁永鏗表示如有證據證明由該項工程引起，業主或租客又被查證聘請不合資格的裝修公司，則有關人士以至該裝修公司均需要承擔責任。<BR><BR>死傷者賠償方面，國際專業保險資訊協會會長羅少雄表示，雖然明年實施的建築物管理條例規定，法團需至少購買一千萬元的第三者責任保，但現時新法例仍未實施，業主或法團或未必有足夠資金賠償，惟部分個人「家居財物保險」包含第三者責任保，若沒有購買法團第三者責任保，或保額不足以賠償，業主或租客可以「家居保」內的第三者責任保補貼。<BR><BR>至於業主及租客損失，香港保險業聯會發言人指出，如大廈購有「大廈全險」，保險公司會計算還原單位後的原價值賠償予業主。至於單位內的財物損失例如家具及裝修等，則需要業主或租客有購買「家居財物保險」才可依據單位面積賠償。</FONT></DIV>

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xiss 發表於 2010-1-30 21:17:37

香港ICAC應該立即介入調查，查查房署以及呢幢樓嘅發展商，睇下有冇啲么嘢骯髒勾當。睇下呢幢樓係唔係「豆腐渣工程」！！<br>

使君子 發表於 2010-1-30 22:57:37

<div><br></div>原帖由 <i>xiss</i> 於 2010-1-30 21:17 發表 <a href="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=170325&amp;ptid=20861" target="_blank"><img src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/common/back.gif" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="attachimg(this, 'load')" alt=""></a>&nbsp;睇下呢幢樓係唔係「豆腐渣工程」！！ <div><br></div><div><br></div><div>唉，好心你啦，栋楼几廿年楼龄，睇新闻睇头唔睇尾~~~~~你不如试下出衡力舂你阿爷一锤？</div><div><br></div><div>当时正在清拆栋旧楼的非法僭建物。</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>

使君子 發表於 2010-1-30 23:19:26

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<div><br></div><div><br></div>原帖由 <i>Ψ丹尼王子</i> 於 2010-1-30 20:45 發表 <a href="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=170320&amp;ptid=20861" target="_blank"><img src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/common/back.gif" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="attachimg(this, 'load')" alt=""></a><div><br></div><div><a href="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=170320&amp;ptid=20861" target="_blank"></a>&nbsp;<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: rgb(83, 83, 83); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; "><font size="4" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><strong style="word-wrap: break-word; font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; line-height: normal; ">改建無王管 &nbsp;亂拆主力牆</strong></font><br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><font size="3" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; ">【本報訊】土瓜灣及深水埗等區舊樓僭建及非法改裝單位問題嚴重，危害樓宇結構之餘，住客及途人的安全亦受威脅。有地產代理指，近年<b><u><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#8B0000">不少居港的<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-large;">福建人</span>購入舊區唐樓，再間成多間套房出租圖利，該批業主喜聘用同鄉黑工進行內部改裝工程。</font></u></b>為求樓盡其用滿足業主要求，此類裝修黑工甚至會將單位的主力牆，甚至樑同柱鑿去一半或整幅拆去，損害樓宇結構安全。&nbsp;<br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><strong style="word-wrap: break-word; font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; line-height: normal; ">聘黑工裝修&nbsp; &nbsp;無視安全</strong><br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; ">業內人士指出，近年不少福建裝修黑工活躍於舊區，他們專門協助進行舊樓單位的改裝工程，由於他們屬非法勞工，「好使好用，業主叫佢做啲乜佢都肯做，唔會理合唔合乎安全」。他表示，<b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#FF0000">由於業主並非自住，大都無考慮過安全問題。</font></span></b></font></span>&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">政府出面理，班刁民就话「干涉自由」；政府唔敢理，班刁民又话「疏于监管」。</span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>

xiss 發表於 2010-1-30 23:43:05

原帖由 <i>使君子</i> 於 2010-1-30 23:19 發表 <a href="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=170337&amp;ptid=20861" target="_blank"><img src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/common/back.gif" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="attachimg(this, 'load')" alt="" border="0"></a>
政府出面理，班刁民就话「干涉自由」；政府唔敢理，班刁民又话「疏于监管」。 <br><br>噉唔通好似你內地噉，無論係「干涉自由」定「疏於監管」，你媒體都「e」都唔敢「e」半句咯喔？！<br><br>政府不管三七二十一都畀人鬧，都好過你內地唔理三七二十一都係有政府講冇你講吖<br><br>重有，唔該你把口唔好咁臭，人哋出聲嗟，冇罪咖。你自己冇得出聲嗟，唔係見到人哋有得出聲就妒忌想鬧人啊嘛？？噉樣嘅話，睇嚟你唔但只係「仇富」，重係妒忌心強，睇嚟你心裡真係有啲問題嘞。<br><br>再者，類比推理：<br>如果香港嗰班可以自由發聲嘅公民係「刁民」嘅話，噉你身處內地冇得隨便出聲嘅臣民就係「奴隸」！！<br>

Ψ丹尼王子 發表於 2010-1-31 03:32:01

<P>原帖由 <I>使君子</I> 於 2010-1-30 23:19 發表 <A href="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=170337&amp;ptid=20861" target=_blank><IMG onclick=zoom(this) alt="" src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/common/back.gif" onload="attachimg(this, 'load')" border=0></A> 政府出面理，班刁民就话「干涉自由」；政府唔敢理，班刁民又话「疏于监管」。 </P>
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<P><FONT color=blue>政府応該要管D須要管嘅<FONT size=2>(e.g.人民生命、財產の保障等等)</FONT>，而唔応該管D唔応該管嘅<FONT size=2>(e.g.自由、人民の政治思想、学術思想等等)</FONT><IMG alt="" src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/smilies/default/smile.gif" border=0 smilieid="1"></FONT> </P>

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Ψ丹尼王子 發表於 2010-1-31 03:32:59

<P>原帖由 <I>xiss</I> 於 2010-1-30 23:43 發表 <A href="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=170339&amp;ptid=20861" target=_blank><IMG onclick=zoom(this) alt="" src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/common/back.gif" onload="attachimg(this, 'load')" border=0></A> 噉唔通好似你內地噉，無論係「干涉自由」定「疏於監管」，你媒體都「e」都唔敢「e」半句咯喔？！<FONT color=red size=2>政府不管三七二十一都畀人鬧，都好過你內地唔理三七二十一都係有政府講冇你講吖</FONT>，重有唔該你把口唔好咁臭，人哋出聲嗟，冇罪咖。你自己 ... </P>
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<P><FONT color=blue>依個就当然係啦！！！<IMG alt="" src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/smilies/default/victory.gif" border=0 smilieid="14"> <IMG alt="" src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/smilies/default/victory.gif" border=0 smilieid="14"> <IMG alt="" src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/smilies/default/biggrin.gif" border=0 smilieid="3"></FONT> </P>

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Ψ丹尼王子 發表於 2010-1-31 05:17:54

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使君子 發表於 2010-1-31 11:48:05

原帖由 <i>xiss</i> 於 2010-1-30 23:43 發表 <a href="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=170339&amp;ptid=20861" target="_blank"><img src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/common/back.gif" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="attachimg(this, 'load')" alt=""></a>&nbsp;<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: rgb(83, 83, 83); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 22px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">唔該你把口唔好咁臭，人哋出聲嗟，冇罪咖。你自己冇得出聲嗟，唔係見到人哋有得出聲就妒忌想鬧人啊嘛？？睇嚟你唔但只係「仇富」，重係妒忌心強，</span></span><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">一次再次踢穿你的「乌托邦」，唔忿气？咪唔记得，上次我问你哩件自诩「广州大」的蛋散的问题，你无条答得出。<img src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/smilies/default/biggrin.gif" smilieid="3" border="0"><br></span><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large; ">我发觉你可能患有「杯弓蛇影」心理症。我几时话过唔准丹尼出声？我只不过是将丹尼份报章某些关键词句划出红字，点破塌楼的根本原因啫。<b><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#4169E1">香港系多内地佬搞非法生意啊</font></b>，你唔忿都无理由揾我出气吧？<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium; "><img src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/smilies/default/biggrin.gif" smilieid="3" border="0"></span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large; "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large; "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large; ">所以，作为一个好心的网友，我真系再次强烈建议你预约你学校的心理辅导员。<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium; "><img src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/smilies/default/biggrin.gif" smilieid="3" border="0"></span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large; "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large; "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">在香港住旧楼的都是低收入阶层，其中绝大多数又是无自己物业、要靠租旧楼渡日的人士。「愁裤」？我愁啊，皆因我泡嘢够大坨，裤裆装唔落啊。<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium; "><img src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/smilies/default/biggrin.gif" smilieid="3" border="0"></span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium; "><br></span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium; "><br></span></span></div></div>

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xiss 發表於 2010-1-31 21:54:19

我何解要針對屎棍子，皆因佢呢個人嘅所作所為好賤，點樣賤？請睇：<br><a href="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/viewthread.php?tid=20113"><br><h2 style="font-weight: normal;">「使君子」呢條友所作所為真係好鬼cheap！</h2></a><h2 style="font-weight: normal;"></h2><br><br>當然，唔止我一個人話佢賤咖，話佢嘅人，多多的是，請睇：<br><br><br><span style="font-style: italic; color: Gray;">可見屎棍子嘅拙劣表演早已喺其它論壇上演過，呢位屎棍子可謂已經喺互聯網上臭名遠播。唔信嘅朋友可以去「恐龍網」瞭解瞭解。</span><br><br>此外，佢嘅卑鄙行為重有好多，例如，明明母語唔係粵語，重硬要喺道話人哋母語唔係粵語，反過嚟話人哋係「撈閪」，當然，佢呢種行為亦都引起咗其它會員嘅反感：<br><br><br><br><span style="font-style: italic; color: Blue;">特別留意嗰句「有廣西非白話區人學粵語嘅痕跡」，實在與我後來對使君子嘅猜測不謀而合。</span><br><br>一直以嚟，我都話屎棍子係廣西人，而且有好強烈嘅仇富，仇視發達地區心理，何解，請睇：<br><br>呢幅圖截自呢張帖：<br><a href="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/viewthread.php?tid=17852&amp;extra=&amp;page=5">http://bbs.cantonese.asia/viewthread.php?tid=17852&amp;extra=&amp;page=5</a><br><span style="color: Blue;">特別留意使君子從65樓打後嘅留言，可以窺探出佢嘅真正身份——廣西人，一個仇視廣東，正確啲嚟講係仇視比佢所在地區發達嘅珠三角地區同香港地區嘅廣西人。更令我感到佢心理變態嘅就係佢居然覺得仇視、妒忌他人係啱嘅，覺得仇視發達地區係理所當然。如此野蠻嘅邏輯實在令人感到佢心理扭曲到何等令人寒心嘅地步</span><br><br>當然，我重有話佢賤，係因為佢行為卑鄙，冒認自己係廣州人，當然亦都畀人識穿咗佢：<br><br><br>以下兩張帖，記載咗屎棍子冒認廣州人慢慢畀人揭穿嘅全過程：<br><a href="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/viewthread.php?tid=20038">http://bbs.cantonese.asia/viewthread.php?tid=20038</a><br><a href="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/viewthread.php?tid=20060&amp;extra=&amp;page=2">http://bbs.cantonese.asia/viewthread.php?tid=20060&amp;extra=&amp;page=2</a><br><br><br><font size="5"><span style="color: SeaGreen;">以上講咁多嘢，係為咗向大家揭示出屎棍子到底係一個點樣嘅貨色嘅人：</span><br style="color: SeaGreen;"><br style="color: SeaGreen;"><span style="color: SeaGreen;">第一，抹黑廣東珠三角和香港</span><br style="color: SeaGreen;"><span style="color: SeaGreen;">第二，挑動兩廣矛盾，間接影衰廣西人嘅形象</span><br style="color: SeaGreen;"><span style="color: SeaGreen;">第三，心理面充滿極其濃烈嘅仇富妒忌心態</span></font><br><br><span style="color: DarkRed;">我懷疑，使君子係一個生於廣西較為貧困地區，但由於某次機會可以嚟到廣州等較發達地區嘅人，嚟到發達地區之後，由於佢自身心態擺唔正，見到比自己家鄉繁華嘅景象後，產生咗一股強烈嘅妒忌心態。於是乎，就開始仇視發達地區，亦即「仇富」。至此，我哋就可以明白點解佢嘅發言充滿以下模式：</span><br><font size="5"><br><span style="color: Red;">崇尚相近廣西嘅越南，崇尚廣西，但逢珠三角、香港必反。</span><span style="color: Red;">多次抹黑，咒駡珠三角、香港地區（例如「深圳窮途末路論」「香港刁民論」「香港媒體愚蠢論」，皆為屎棍子所作）</span></font><br><br><font size="4"><span style="color: Blue;">講咁多，就係要以正視聽，等大家知道，屎棍子究竟系么嘢貨色，佢講嘅話，可信度究竟有幾高。</span></font><br>

使君子 發表於 2010-1-31 22:03:37

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<div><br></div><div><br></div><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_MNOPS_(Y-DNA)">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_MNOPS_(Y-DNA)</a><br><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; "><table align="center" width="550" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="font-size: 13px; color: black; background-color: rgb(249, 249, 249); background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-right-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-bottom-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-left-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; text-align: center; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><tbody><tr><td colspan="25" style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(204, 204, 255); border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-bottom-style: solid; text-align: center; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><p style="margin-top: 0.4em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 1.5em; "><b><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Y-chromosome_DNA_haplogroup" title="Human Y-chromosome DNA haplogroup" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(90, 54, 150); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Human Y-chromosome DNA (Y-DNA) haplogroups</a></b>&nbsp;<small>(<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_by_ethnic_groups" title="Y-DNA haplogroups by ethnic groups" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">by ethnic groups</a>&nbsp;·&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_haplogroups_of_historical_and_famous_figures" title="List of haplogroups of historical and famous figures" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">famous haplotypes</a>)</small></p></td></tr><tr><td colspan="1"></td><td colspan="25" style="text-align: left; font-size: 12px; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-chromosomal_Adam" title="Y-chromosomal Adam" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">most recent common Y-ancestor</a></td></tr><tr><td colspan="9">|</td><td colspan="18"></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"></td><td colspan="1" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-top-style: solid; text-align: left; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_A_(Y-DNA)" title="Haplogroup A (Y-DNA)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">A</a></td><td colspan="3" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-top-style: solid; "></td><td colspan="2" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-top-style: solid; text-align: right; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_BT_(Y-DNA)" title="Haplogroup BT (Y-DNA)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">BT</a></td><td colspan="18"></td></tr><tr><td colspan="7"></td><td colspan="1">|</td></tr><tr><td colspan="4"></td><td colspan="1" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-top-style: solid; text-align: left; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_B_(Y-DNA)" title="Haplogroup B (Y-DNA)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">B</a></td><td colspan="7" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-top-style: solid; "></td><td colspan="2" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-top-style: solid; text-align: right; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_CT_(Y-DNA)" title="Haplogroup CT (Y-DNA)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">CT</a></td><td colspan="15"></td></tr><tr><td colspan="13"></td><td colspan="1">|</td></tr><tr><td colspan="8"></td><td colspan="2" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-top-style: solid; text-align: left; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_CF_(Y-DNA)" title="Haplogroup CF (Y-DNA)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">CF</a></td><td colspan="9" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-top-style: solid; "></td><td colspan="1" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-top-style: solid; text-align: right; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_DE_(Y-DNA)" title="Haplogroup DE (Y-DNA)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">DE</a></td><td colspan="12"></td></tr><tr><td colspan="8"></td><td colspan="1">|</td><td colspan="10"></td><td colspan="1">|</td></tr><tr><td colspan="5"></td><td colspan="1" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-top-style: solid; text-align: left; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_C_(Y-DNA)" title="Haplogroup C (Y-DNA)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">C</a></td><td colspan="4" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-top-style: solid; "></td><td colspan="1" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-top-style: solid; text-align: right; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_F_(Y-DNA)" title="Haplogroup F (Y-DNA)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">F</a></td><td colspan="8"></td><td colspan="1" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-top-style: solid; text-align: left; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_D_(Y-DNA)" title="Haplogroup D (Y-DNA)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">D</a></td><td colspan="1" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-top-style: solid; text-align: right; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E_(Y-DNA)" title="Haplogroup E (Y-DNA)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">E</a></td><td colspan="9"></td></tr><tr><td colspan="10"></td><td colspan="2">|</td></tr><tr><td colspan="7"></td><td colspan="1" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-top-style: solid; text-align: left; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_G_(Y-DNA)" title="Haplogroup G (Y-DNA)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">G</a></td><td colspan="1" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-top-style: solid; text-align: center; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_H_(Y-DNA)" title="Haplogroup H (Y-DNA)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">H</a></td><td colspan="3" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-top-style: solid; "></td><td colspan="2" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-top-style: solid; text-align: right; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_IJK_(Y-DNA)" title="Haplogroup IJK (Y-DNA)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">IJK</a></td><td colspan="5"></td></tr><tr><td colspan="13"></td><td colspan="1">|</td></tr><tr><td colspan="10"></td><td colspan="2" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-top-style: solid; text-align: left; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_IJ_(Y-DNA)" title="Haplogroup IJ (Y-DNA)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">IJ</a></td><td colspan="6" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-top-style: solid; text-align: right; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_K_(Y-DNA)" title="Haplogroup K (Y-DNA)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">K</a></td></tr><tr><td colspan="9"></td><td colspan="2">|</td><td colspan="6"></td><td colspan="2">|</td></tr><tr><td colspan="9"></td><td colspan="1" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-top-style: solid; text-align: left; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I_(Y-DNA)" title="Haplogroup I (Y-DNA)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">I</a></td><td colspan="1" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-top-style: solid; text-align: right; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_J_(Y-DNA)" title="Haplogroup J (Y-DNA)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">J</a></td><td colspan="2"></td><td colspan="1" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-top-style: solid; text-align: left; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_L_(Y-DNA)" title="Haplogroup L (Y-DNA)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">L</a></td><td colspan="6" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-top-style: solid; text-align: center; "><strong class="selflink">MNOPS</strong></td><td colspan="1" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-top-style: solid; text-align: right; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_T_(Y-DNA)" title="Haplogroup T (Y-DNA)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">T</a></td></tr><tr><td colspan="14"></td><td colspan="6">|</td></tr><tr><td colspan="11"></td><td colspan="2" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-top-style: solid; text-align: left; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_M_(Y-DNA)" title="Haplogroup M (Y-DNA)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">M</a></td><td colspan="4" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-top-style: solid; text-align: left; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_NO_(Y-DNA)" title="Haplogroup NO (Y-DNA)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(90, 54, 150); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">NO</a></td><td colspan="2" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-top-style: solid; text-align: center; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_P_(Y-DNA)" title="Haplogroup P (Y-DNA)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">P</a></td><td colspan="2" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-top-style: solid; text-align: right; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_S_(Y-DNA)" title="Haplogroup S (Y-DNA)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">S</a></td></tr><tr><td colspan="13"></td><td colspan="1" style="text-align: center; ">|</td><td colspan="3"></td><td colspan="1" style="text-align: right; ">|</td></tr><tr><td colspan="12"></td><td colspan="2" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-top-style: solid; text-align: left; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_N_(Y-DNA)" title="Haplogroup N (Y-DNA)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">N</a></td><td colspan="1" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-top-style: solid; text-align: right; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_O_(Y-DNA)" title="Haplogroup O (Y-DNA)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(90, 54, 150); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">O</a></td><td colspan="2"></td><td colspan="1" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-top-style: solid; text-align: left; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_Q_(Y-DNA)" title="Haplogroup Q (Y-DNA)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Q</a></td><td colspan="1" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(17, 17, 17); border-top-style: solid; text-align: right; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R_(Y-DNA)" title="Haplogroup R (Y-DNA)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">R</a></td></tr></tbody></table></span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_BT_(Y-DNA)">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_BT_(Y-DNA)</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; ">Haplogroup BT split off from&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_A_(Y-DNA)" title="Haplogroup A (Y-DNA)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">haplogroup A</a>&nbsp;70,000 years&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Before_Present" title="Before Present" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">bp</a>&nbsp;, probably </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><b><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#8B0000">originating in North East Africa</font></b></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; "> from<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-chromosomal_Adam" title="Y-chromosomal Adam" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Y-chromosomal Adam</a>. It contains all living human Y-DNA haplogroups except for A.</span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>

使君子 發表於 2010-1-31 22:08:28

你够胆不承认这些haplogroupO是来自你东南亚的亲戚？

<div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_O_(Y-DNA)">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_O_(Y-DNA)</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; "><h3 style="color: black; background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; font-weight: bold; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.3em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0.5em; padding-bottom: 0.17em; border-bottom-width: initial; border-bottom-style: none; border-bottom-color: initial; font-size: 17px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span class="mw-headline" id="Haplogroup_O1a-M119">Haplogroup O1a-M119</span></h3><p style="margin-top: 0.4em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 1.5em; ">Found frequently in&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austronesian_people" title="Austronesian people" class="mw-redirect" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Austronesians</a>, people in southern China, and&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kradai_languages" title="Kradai languages" class="mw-redirect" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(90, 54, 150); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Kradai</a>&nbsp;peoples.</p><h3 style="color: black; background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; font-weight: bold; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.3em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0.5em; padding-bottom: 0.17em; border-bottom-width: initial; border-bottom-style: none; border-bottom-color: initial; font-size: 17px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span class="editsection" style="float: right; margin-left: 5px; font-size: 13px; font-weight: normal; ">[<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Haplogroup_O_(Y-DNA)&amp;action=edit&amp;section=4" title="Edit section: Haplogroup O2a-M95" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">edit</a>]</span><span class="mw-headline" id="Haplogroup_O2a-M95">Haplogroup O2a-M95</span></h3><p style="margin-top: 0.4em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 1.5em; ">Found among the&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austro-Asiatic_languages" title="Austro-Asiatic languages" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Austro-Asiatic</a>&nbsp;peoples,&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tai_peoples" title="Tai peoples" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(90, 54, 150); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Kradai peoples</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malays_(ethnic_group)" title="Malays (ethnic group)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Malays</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia#demographics" title="Indonesia" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Indonesians</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malagasy_people" title="Malagasy people" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(90, 54, 150); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Malagasy</a>, with a moderate distribution throughout&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Asia" title="South Asia" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">South Asia</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeast_Asia" title="Southeast Asia" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Southeast Asia</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Asia" title="East Asia" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">East Asia</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Asia" title="Central Asia" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Central Asia</a>.</p><h4 style="color: black; background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; font-weight: bold; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.3em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0.5em; padding-bottom: 0.17em; border-bottom-width: initial; border-bottom-style: none; border-bottom-color: initial; font-size: 15px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span class="editsection" style="float: right; margin-left: 5px; font-size: 13px; font-weight: normal; ">[<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Haplogroup_O_(Y-DNA)&amp;action=edit&amp;section=5" title="Edit section: Haplogroup O2a1-M88" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">edit</a>]</span><span class="mw-headline" id="Haplogroup_O2a1-M88">Haplogroup O2a1-M88</span></h4><p style="margin-top: 0.4em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 1.5em; ">Frequently found among&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hani_people" title="Hani people" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Hani</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/She_people" title="She people" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">She people</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tai_peoples" title="Tai peoples" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(90, 54, 150); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Tai peoples</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodia#demographics" title="Cambodia" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Cambodians</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnamese_people" title="Vietnamese people" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Vietnamese</a>, with a moderate distribution among&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qiang_people" title="Qiang people" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Qiang</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yi_people" title="Yi people" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Yi</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_people" title="Li people" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Hlai</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miao_people" title="Miao people" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Miao</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yao_people" title="Yao people" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Yao</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwanese_aborigines" title="Taiwanese aborigines" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Taiwanese aborigines</a>, and&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_Chinese" title="Han Chinese" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Han Chinese</a>.</p><h4 style="color: black; background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; font-weight: bold; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.3em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0.5em; padding-bottom: 0.17em; border-bottom-width: initial; border-bottom-style: none; border-bottom-color: initial; font-size: 15px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span class="editsection" style="float: right; margin-left: 5px; font-size: 13px; font-weight: normal; ">[<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Haplogroup_O_(Y-DNA)&amp;action=edit&amp;section=6" title="Edit section: Haplogroup O2a1a-PK4" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">edit</a>]</span><span class="mw-headline" id="Haplogroup_O2a1a-PK4">Haplogroup O2a1a-PK4</span></h4><p style="margin-top: 0.4em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 1.5em; ">Found at low frequency among&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pashtun_people" title="Pashtun people" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Pashtuns</a>,<sup id="cite_ref-Firasat_5-0" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_O_(Y-DNA)#cite_note-Firasat-5" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; white-space: nowrap; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span>[</span>6<span>]</span></a></sup>&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tharu_people" title="Tharu people" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Tharus</a>,<sup id="cite_ref-Fornarino2009_6-0" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_O_(Y-DNA)#cite_note-Fornarino2009-6" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; white-space: nowrap; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span>[</span>7<span>]</span></a></sup>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adivasi" title="Adivasi" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">tribals</a>&nbsp;of&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andhra_Pradesh" title="Andhra Pradesh" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Andhra Pradesh</a>.<sup id="cite_ref-Fornarino2009_6-1" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_O_(Y-DNA)#cite_note-Fornarino2009-6" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; white-space: nowrap; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span>[</span>7<span>]</span></a></sup></p></span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; "><h4 style="color: black; background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; font-weight: bold; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.3em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0.5em; padding-bottom: 0.17em; border-bottom-width: initial; border-bottom-style: none; border-bottom-color: initial; font-size: 15px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span class="mw-headline" id="Haplogroup_O3a3b-M7">Haplogroup O3a3b-M7</span></h4><p style="margin-top: 0.4em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 1.5em; ">Found frequently among&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hmong-Mien_languages" title="Hmong-Mien languages" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Hmong-Mien</a>&nbsp;peoples, with a moderate distribution among&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_Chinese" title="Han Chinese" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Han Chinese</a>,<sup id="cite_ref-Xue2006_7-0" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_O_(Y-DNA)#cite_note-Xue2006-7" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; white-space: nowrap; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span>[</span>8<span>]</span></a></sup>&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buyei" title="Buyei" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Buyei</a>,<sup id="cite_ref-Xue2006_7-1" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_O_(Y-DNA)#cite_note-Xue2006-7" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; white-space: nowrap; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span>[</span>8<span>]</span></a></sup>&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bai_people" title="Bai people" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Bai</a>,<sup id="cite_ref-Wen2004_8-0" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_O_(Y-DNA)#cite_note-Wen2004-8" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; white-space: nowrap; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span>[</span>9<span>]</span></a></sup>&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosuo_people" title="Mosuo people" class="mw-redirect" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Mosuo</a>,<sup id="cite_ref-Wen2004_8-1" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_O_(Y-DNA)#cite_note-Wen2004-8" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; white-space: nowrap; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span>[</span>9<span>]</span></a></sup>&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibetan_people" title="Tibetan people" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Tibetans</a>,<sup id="cite_ref-Wen2004_8-2" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_O_(Y-DNA)#cite_note-Wen2004-8" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; white-space: nowrap; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span>[</span>9<span>]</span></a></sup>&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qiang_people" title="Qiang people" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Qiang</a>,<sup id="cite_ref-Xue2006_7-2" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_O_(Y-DNA)#cite_note-Xue2006-7" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; white-space: nowrap; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span>[</span>8<span>]</span></a></sup>&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oroqen" title="Oroqen" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Oroqen</a>,<sup id="cite_ref-Xue2006_7-3" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_O_(Y-DNA)#cite_note-Xue2006-7" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; white-space: nowrap; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span>[</span>8<span>]</span></a></sup><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tujia_people" title="Tujia people" class="mw-redirect" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Tujia</a>,<sup id="cite_ref-SuBing2000_9-0" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_O_(Y-DNA)#cite_note-SuBing2000-9" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; white-space: nowrap; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span>[</span>10<span>]</span></a></sup>&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_people" title="Thai people" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Thai</a>,<sup id="cite_ref-SuBing2000_9-1" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_O_(Y-DNA)#cite_note-SuBing2000-9" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; white-space: nowrap; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span>[</span>10<span>]</span></a></sup>&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orang_Asli" title="Orang Asli" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Orang Asli</a>,<sup id="cite_ref-SuBing2000_9-2" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_O_(Y-DNA)#cite_note-SuBing2000-9" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; white-space: nowrap; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span>[</span>10<span>]</span></a></sup>&nbsp;western&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia" title="Indonesia" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Indonesians</a>,<sup id="cite_ref-SuBing2000_9-3" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_O_(Y-DNA)#cite_note-SuBing2000-9" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; white-space: nowrap; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span>[</span>10<span>]</span></a></sup><sup id="cite_ref-Kayser2008_10-0" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_O_(Y-DNA)#cite_note-Kayser2008-10" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; white-space: nowrap; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span>[</span>11<span>]</span></a></sup>&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia" title="Malaysia" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Malaysians</a>,<sup id="cite_ref-Kayser2008_10-1" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_O_(Y-DNA)#cite_note-Kayser2008-10" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; white-space: nowrap; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span>[</span>11<span>]</span></a></sup>&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam" title="Vietnam" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Vietnamese</a>,<sup id="cite_ref-Kayser2008_10-2" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_O_(Y-DNA)#cite_note-Kayser2008-10" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; white-space: nowrap; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span>[</span>11<span>]</span></a></sup>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atayal" title="Atayal" class="mw-redirect" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Atayal</a>.<sup id="cite_ref-SuBing2000_9-4" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_O_(Y-DNA)#cite_note-SuBing2000-9" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; white-space: nowrap; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span>[</span>10<span>]</span></a></sup></p></span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>

使君子 發表於 2010-1-31 22:18:57

请欣赏朱利安发言「广人系丑就要认」

<div><br></div><br><div><a href="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/viewthread.php?tid=17105">http://bbs.cantonese.asia/viewthread.php?tid=17105</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 22px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "></div><div class="quote" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; font-size: 12px; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 20px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 20px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(226, 226, 226); border-right-color: rgb(226, 226, 226); border-bottom-color: rgb(226, 226, 226); border-left-color: rgb(226, 226, 226); border-width: initial; border-top-width: 4px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; background-image: url(http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/Beijing2008/portalbox_bg.gif); background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden; background-position: 0px 0px; background-repeat: repeat no-repeat; "><h5 style="word-wrap: break-word; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 5px; font-size: 1em; line-height: 26px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-color: initial; border-top-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); border-right-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); border-bottom-color: rgb(226, 226, 226); border-left-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(83, 83, 83); ">引用:</h5><blockquote style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: 1.6em; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 1em; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 3em; ">原帖由&nbsp;<i style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><b style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; font-size: xx-large; ">神七咁早</span></b></i>&nbsp;於 2009-7-9 22:52 發表&nbsp;<a href="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=146282&amp;ptid=17105" target="_blank" style="word-wrap: break-word; color: rgb(83, 83, 83); text-decoration: none; line-height: normal; "><img src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/common/back.gif" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="attachimg(this, 'load')" alt="" style="word-wrap: break-word; border-top-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; line-height: normal; "></a>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;<b style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; font-size: xx-large; ">起码话广东人丑呢点无讲错，呢个的确系事实嚟嘅，系丑就要认。</span></b>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;</blockquote></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "></div></span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>

xiss 發表於 2010-1-31 22:26:22

原帖由 <i>使君子</i> 於 2010-1-31 22:18 發表 <a href="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=170424&amp;ptid=20861" target="_blank"><img src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/common/back.gif" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="attachimg(this, 'load')" alt="" border="0"></a>
http://bbs.cantonese.asia/viewthread.php?tid=17105引用:原帖由&nbsp;神七咁早&nbsp;於 2009-7-9 22:52 發表&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;起码话广东人丑呢点无讲错，呢个的确系事实嚟嘅，系丑就要认。&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; ... <br><br>宜家我話緊你一而再再而三噉樣喺道抹黑廣東人，冒認廣州人。<br><br>你宜家居然話我哋「要認」？畀你繼續抹黑詆毀啊？！<br>

使君子 發表於 2010-1-31 22:30:08

敢问声「广州大」的小厮，你班「智囊团」答得出下列问题未？

<br><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/viewthread.php?tid=20038">http://bbs.cantonese.asia/viewthread.php?tid=20038</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 22px; "><br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: 25px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: PMingLiU, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; "><i style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; ">一·&nbsp;<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal; font-size: 14px; "><b style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">开车上 洛溪大桥 去番禺，使唔使经过 增城新塘 永久公墓，顺路拜拜你祖先？</span></b></span></i></span></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="PMingLiU, Arial, sans-serif" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; border-collapse: collapse; "><br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "></span></font></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="PMingLiU, Arial, sans-serif" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; border-collapse: collapse; "><br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "></span></font></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: 25px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: PMingLiU, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; "><br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><i style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; ">二·&nbsp;<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal; line-height: 25px; "><i style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; font-style: normal; "><b style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal; line-height: 25px; "><i style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; font-style: normal; "><b style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; ">等我问翻你三个问题： &nbsp;2中校长罗峻峰，原先系边间中学校长？ &nbsp;育才（肉菜）中学有几个校区？ &nbsp;被老市民戏称为「麻雀中学」并最终收归于5中的，是边间中学？</b></span></i></span></b></span></i></span></i></span></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: 25px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: PMingLiU, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; "><br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "></span></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="PMingLiU, Arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="PMingLiU, Arial, sans-serif" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; border-collapse: collapse; "><br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "></span></font></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: 25px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: PMingLiU, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; "><br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><i style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; ">五·&nbsp;<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal; line-height: 25px; "><b style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; ">「流嘢前线」入面间 「南梦宫」（Namco）机室，系几时引入 捽碟机 &nbsp;同埋 &nbsp;第一代跳舞机 （即系左右脚各 红 绿 黄 三色 共六个掣）？？？</b></span></i></span></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: 25px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: PMingLiU, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; "><br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "></span></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: 25px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: PMingLiU, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; "><br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><i style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; ">六·&nbsp;<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal; line-height: 25px; "><b style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; ">广州条中轴线，唔响越秀，唔通响湖南 ？</b></span></i></span></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: 25px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: PMingLiU, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; "><br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "></span></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="PMingLiU, Arial, sans-serif" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; border-collapse: collapse; "><br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "></span></font></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: 25px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: PMingLiU, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; "><br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><i style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; ">七·&nbsp;<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal; font-size: 14px; line-height: 25px; "><b style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">龙口西路 响边区？</span></b></span></i></span></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="PMingLiU, Arial, sans-serif" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: 25px; border-collapse: collapse; "><br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "></span></font></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="PMingLiU, Arial, sans-serif" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; border-collapse: collapse; "><br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "></span></font></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: 25px; border-collapse: collapse; font-family: PMingLiU, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; "><br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><i style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; ">八·&nbsp;<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-size: 14px; "><b style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">知唔知「老举撼班友」个英文缩写系咩啊？&nbsp;</span><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000FF" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">B</span></font><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">itches&nbsp;</span><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#FF0000" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">R</span></font><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">ock&nbsp;</span><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#006400" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">T</span></font><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">hem ！！</span></b></span></i></span></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "></div></span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/viewthread.php?tid=20060">http://bbs.cantonese.asia/viewthread.php?tid=20060</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 22px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "></span></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">&nbsp;· 「事干」、「说话」 两个词，香港边位官员用得最频？</span></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "></span></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "></span></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">&nbsp;· 「掂档」系咩性质既档口？ 系「耿档」定系 「走鬼档」？系 烧腊档，凉粉档，定系 净卖 女人底衫底裤 ？</span></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "></span></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "></span></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">&nbsp;· 如果有日，我话请你去「别有天」，你济定唔济？</span></div></span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>

xiss 發表於 2010-1-31 22:34:59

<span style="font-style: italic; color: SeaGreen;">扯開話題，轉移視線？唔使旨意！！</span><br><br>我何解要針對屎棍子，皆因佢呢個人嘅所作所為好賤，點樣賤？請睇：<br><a href="viewthread.php?tid=20113"><br><h2 style="font-weight: normal;">「使君子」呢條友所作所為真係好鬼cheap！</h2></a><br><br>當然，唔止我一個人話佢賤咖，話佢嘅人，多多的是，請睇：<br><br>
       
               
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<br><span style="font-style: italic; color: Gray;">可見屎棍子嘅拙劣表演早已喺其它論壇上演過，呢位屎棍子可謂已經喺互聯網上臭名遠播。唔信嘅朋友可以去「恐龍網」瞭解瞭解。</span><br><br>此外，佢嘅卑鄙行為重有好多，例如，明明母語唔係粵語，重硬要喺道話人哋母語唔係粵語，反過嚟話人哋係「撈閪」，當然，佢呢種行為亦都引起咗其它會員嘅反感：<br>
       
               
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<br><span style="font-style: italic; color: Blue;">特別留意嗰句「有廣西非白話區人學粵語嘅痕跡」，實在與我後來對使君子嘅猜測不謀而合。</span><br><br>一直以嚟，我都話屎棍子係廣西人，而且有好強烈嘅仇富，仇視發達地區心理，何解，請睇：<br>
       
               
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<br>呢幅圖截自呢張帖：<br><a href="viewthread.php?tid=17852&amp;extra=&amp;page=5">http://bbs.cantonese.asia/viewthread.php?tid=17852&amp;extra=&amp;page=5</a><br><span style="color: Blue;">特
別留意使君子從65樓打後嘅留言，可以窺探出佢嘅真正身份——廣西人，一個仇視廣東，正確啲嚟講係仇視比佢所在地區發達嘅珠三角地區同香港地區嘅廣西人。
更令我感到佢心理變態嘅就係佢居然覺得仇視、妒忌他人係啱嘅，覺得仇視發達地區係理所當然。如此野蠻嘅邏輯實在令人感到佢心理扭曲到何等令人寒心嘅地步</span><br><br>當然，我重有話佢賤，係因為佢行為卑鄙，冒認自己係廣州人，當然亦都畀人識穿咗佢：<br>
       
               
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<br><br>以下兩張帖，記載咗屎棍子冒認廣州人慢慢畀人揭穿嘅全過程：<br><a href="viewthread.php?tid=20038">http://bbs.cantonese.asia/viewthread.php?tid=20038</a><br><a href="viewthread.php?tid=20060&amp;extra=&amp;page=2">http://bbs.cantonese.asia/viewthread.php?tid=20060&amp;extra=&amp;page=2</a><br><br><br><font size="5"><span style="color: SeaGreen;">以上講咁多嘢，係為咗向大家揭示出屎棍子到底係一個點樣嘅貨色嘅人：</span><br style="color: SeaGreen;"><br style="color: SeaGreen;"><span style="color: SeaGreen;">第一，抹黑廣東珠三角和香港</span><br style="color: SeaGreen;"><span style="color: SeaGreen;">第二，挑動兩廣矛盾，間接影衰廣西人嘅形象</span><br style="color: SeaGreen;"><span style="color: SeaGreen;">第三，心理面充滿極其濃烈嘅仇富妒忌心態</span></font><br><br><span style="color: DarkRed;">我
懷疑，使君子係一個生於廣西較為貧困地區，但由於某次機會可以嚟到廣州等較發達地區嘅人，嚟到發達地區之後，由於佢自身心態擺唔正，見到比自己家鄉繁華嘅
景象後，產生咗一股強烈嘅妒忌心態。於是乎，就開始仇視發達地區，亦即「仇富」。至此，我哋就可以明白點解佢嘅發言充滿以下模式：</span><br><font size="5"><br><span style="color: Red;">崇尚相近廣西嘅越南，崇尚廣西，但逢珠三角、香港必反。</span><span style="color: Red;">多次抹黑，咒駡珠三角、香港地區（例如「深圳窮途末路論」「香港刁民論」「香港媒體愚蠢論」，皆為屎棍子所作）</span></font><br><br><font size="4"><span style="color: Blue;">講咁多，就係要以正視聽，等大家知道，屎棍子究竟系么嘢貨色，佢講嘅話，可信度究竟有幾高。</span></font><br>

xiss 發表於 2010-1-31 22:36:53

屎棍子之拙劣表演截圖：<br><br><br>

xiss 發表於 2010-1-31 22:41:59

屎棍子冒認廣州人之分析

分析一：<br>廣州民生話題，屎棍子一問三不知；地道廣州人，唔知廣州有百佳。請睇：<br><a href="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/viewthread.php?tid=20038">http://bbs.cantonese.asia/viewthread.php?tid=20038</a>（11樓）<br><br>分析二：<br>對於廣州今日已經冇人佢逛嘅「金茂」「越富」熟悉不過，但居然唔知今日廣州人行街必知嘅「中華廣場」？<br>請睇：<br><a href="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/viewthread.php?tid=20060&amp;extra=&amp;page=1">http://bbs.cantonese.asia/viewthread.php?tid=20060&amp;extra=&amp;page=1</a> （13樓）<br><br><p></p><p>原帖由 <i>使君子</i> 於 2009-12-21 13:22 發表 <a target="_blank" href="redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=166203&amp;ptid=20060"><img onload="attachimg(this, 'load')" src="images/common/back.gif" alt="" onclick="zoom(this)" border="0"></a> 厮厮，实情我好鬼想同你拍膊头做老襟噶嘛，点知发消息比你唔应，加你Q又唔通过，你都好高斗啫。</p>
<p><br>见你成日发拼音讨论帖，就系咁意出几条「散手」题「lan2」下你：</p>
<p><br>·&nbsp; 东莞莞城话，「倾偈」点拼？</p>
<p><br>&nbsp;· 台山广海话，「饮水」点拼？</p>
<p><br>&nbsp;· 中山石岐话，「铁钉」点拼？</p>
<p><br>&nbsp;· 问过宝宝，宝宝唔识答，轮到问你：土华、小洲 二村，当地村民点读「杨桃」一词？请拼出。</p>
<p><br>&nbsp;· 我初入大洋阵时，云山大兄 用佢乡下方言闹我做「屎棍子」，我即刻用翻佢乡下方言闹翻佢转头。&nbsp; 问：「使君子」同「屎棍子」发音完全一样既，系边个片区方言？用哩个片区方言来读「云山大兄」四只字，应该点发音先好？<br>&nbsp;· 「事干」、「说话」 两个词，香港边位官员用得最频？</p>
<p>&nbsp;· 「掂档」系咩性质既档口？ 系「耿档」定系 「走鬼档」？系 烧腊档，凉粉档，定系 净卖 女人底衫底裤 ？</p>
<p><br>· 如果有日，我话请你去「别有天」，你济定唔济？</p>
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<p>我係廣州人，今年20，就讀廣東外語外貿大學。</p>
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<p>我唔瞭解各地嘅鄉音，點解呢？因為我係廣州人。</p>
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<p>土生土長廣州仔，從未離開過廣州（出外旅遊唔算），我哋唔需要向大城市走動，我哋所睇嘅電視，一唔係就廣州話，一唔係就普通話，我哋去到大學之後，
我哋唔識聽粵語其它地方音，但係廣東省其它地方嘅同學都聽得明我哋嘅廣州音。所以，我哋冇瞭解其它地方音嘅環境以及「溝通壓力」。</p>
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<p>使君子你睇落去好似好瞭解廣東以及廣州啲嘢，但係你依然唔似係廣州人，點解呢？因為你實在太瞭解呢啲嘢，你瞭解得太深入嘞，而且瞭解得太唔到路喇。
廣州人真正關心嘅生活瑣碎事你唔瞭解（「崗頂」一題就試到你嘞），但係一啲好有研究嘅有關廣東以及廣州語言以及民俗嘅嘢你就十分瞭解。你噉樣就實在太過唔
似廣州人喇。</p>
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<p>廣州係一座生活節奏好快嘅大城市，生活壓力好大，廣州人時時刻刻被衣食住行、出行、升學、醫保、社保、就業等生活瑣碎事環繞住，廣州人好現實，佢哋邊道得閒對其它嘢做咁多研究？</p>
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<p>廣州人會瞭解邊道有場招聘會，邊間公司工資高啲，但係唔會關心某某詞彙其它地方點樣講；</p>
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<p>廣州學生會瞭解中考高考幾多分，邊間學校好，可以去邊間學校，但係唔會關心「掂檔」嘅「檔」係「走鬼檔」頂「緊檔」；</p>
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<p>廣州師奶會瞭解邊個市場啲餸平啲，但係唔會關心香港官員比較中意用邊個詞。</p>
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<p>廣州人休息放假會關心佢邊道rap、邊道唱K邊道蒲，邊道行街shopping，所以肯定知道某某超市某某廣場會喺邊道，特別系北京路附近嘅嘢，肯
定唔會行花街嘅唔知道西湖路花市，行家樂福嘅唔知道中旅有間百佳。但係唔會關心「石室」由邊個鬼佬起，甚至乎連個係邊個籍貫嘅邊位石匠打造。</p>
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<p>噉樣先係廣州，一個充斥住生活瑣碎事嘅城市；噉樣先係廣州人，只懂得生活上雞毛蒜皮嘅事，但係對於啲咩語言民俗歷史緣由，先唔得閒去理。</p>
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<p>而你呢？廣州生活瑣碎事一竅不通，或者話一問道呢啲真正嘅「廣州特色」問題時，你一唔係就迴避唔畀出明確答案，一唔係就講埋曬啲無厘頭嘅嘢甚至乎唔符合廣州人生活邏輯嘅嘢。</p>
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<p>所以我話你唔係廣州人，至起碼唔係一個土生土長嘅廣州人。</p>
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<p>但係我諗你係一個曾經嚟過廣州生活嘅人，點解呢？</p>
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<p>因為，你對廣州一啲「旅遊景點」你瞭解得好清楚，例如中華廣場、石室之類嘅，同埋一啲廣州民俗地理概況呢啲咁pro嘅嘢，諸如珠江流向，某某詞語嘅
來歷研究等，你似乎有瞭解過，簡直就好似一本介紹廣州民俗嘅教科書噉。不過，呢啲廣州人會特別去理佢咩？？會研究得咁深入咩？廣州人一日到黑忙碌喺呢個城
市裏面，對呢啲嘢嘅感覺係平常到冇得再平常，唔得閒亦都冇興趣對佢進行咁深入嘅研究。</p>
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<p>相反，邊啲人會瞭解呢？呢方面嘅專家，或者話一個希望儘快瞭解一下廣州嘅人，專門查閱有關資料，專門對廣州進行過一次「知識掃盲」嘅人，例如話係一
個外地剛到廣州但想儘快融入廣州嘅人，就可能出現你呢種情況嘞：對廣州一啲好概念化，學術化，專業化嘅嘢你會比較瞭解，因為呢啲可以從文字上瞭解到，但係
對廣州雞毛蒜皮嘅民生問題瞭解得十分單薄，根本就唔似係一個喺廣州生活咗十幾年嘅人。</p>
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<p>雖然唔排除某啲廣州人真係會對呢啲嘢有所研究（就好似我噉，一般廣州學生仔懶得理咁多粵語嘅嘢，但係我就好中意研究粵語），不過，無論點都好，點研
究呢啲嘢都好，廣州雞毛蒜皮嘅市井問題你冇可能一問三不知啩？？因為呢啲嘢係生活經歷嚟咖，係你喺廣州生活咗N多年得出嚟嘅故事、經驗嚟咖。</p>
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<p><font color="darkorange" size="5"><strong>所以我話，無論你點揾資料，點樣瘋狂補漏廣州嘅知識，但係你學到嘅都只係書面上嘅嘢，但係對於一啲廣州生活瑣碎事，你無法知道。所以話，你掩飾唔到：你唔系土生土長嘅廣州人，頂多只係一個曾經喺廣州生活嘅人。</strong></font></p>
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<p><font color="blue">有人問我點解成日要揪住你唔放，噉係因為我好唔中意你幾點作為：</font></p>
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<p><font color="blue">第一，經常對珠三角、香港乃至整個廣東含沙射影（有時甚至重直接攻擊），好似我哋虧欠咗你哋么嘢噉；</font></p>
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<p><font color="blue">第二，經常搞埋曬啲歪論，而且重要用到斷章取義歪曲願意偽造論據證據此類卑劣招數，而且你重係喺每次人哋揭穿你嘅時候，你就唔再回帖而作迴避，但係你就會繼續照舊，繼續發其它帖重複你呢啲行為。噉證明咗：<strong>你知道自己噉樣做係唔啱嘅，但係你依然要做落去，就係明知錯都要做，我就係最唔中意你呢點！！</strong></font></p>
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<p><font color="blue">第三，自己嚟自邊道有么嘢好隱瞞呢？講出嚟就係啦。就算你唔想講，你有必要冒充你係廣州人咩？</font></p>
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<p><font color="blue">當然，一個外地嚟廣州生活嘅人就冇么可能瞭解嘞，點解呢？第一，嚟廣州唔長，而呢啲嘢需要多年生活經驗積累
所得，豈能話會就會；第二，呢啲嘢唔似得學術知識，唔可以從文字資料上學返嚟，必須靠自己嘅生活經驗積累返嚟。所以，呢啲問題其實就好容易區分到某個人究
竟係唔係一個土生土長嘅廣州人嘞。</font></p><p></p><br>

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