「重」和「行」的異讀問題。
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: normal; border-collapse: collapse; white-space: pre; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="細明體"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">重字有平上去三個讀，普通話全濁上全作去，只餘兩讀。</span></font></span><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: normal; border-collapse: collapse; white-space: pre; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="細明體"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">平聲表「多次」，這個應當沒問題。 上聲和去聲讀法卻不太明白。查粵語配音字庫：</span></font></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; line-height: normal; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; white-space: pre; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; white-space: normal; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium; "><table width="100%" border="1"><tbody><tr bgcolor="#fff0c2"><th nowrap="" width="100">音節<br><font size="-2">(香港語言學學會)</font></th><th nowrap="" width="30">粵<br>音</th><th nowrap="" width="70"><font color="gray" face="Wingdings">&</font> 根據</th><th nowrap="" width="100">同音字</th><th nowrap="" width="80">相關音節</th><th nowrap="">詞例(<font color="maroon" size="-1">解釋</font>) / <font color="forestgreen" size="-1">備註</font></th></tr><tr><td nowrap="" align="center"><font color="red" size="+1">c</font><font color="green" size="+1">ung</font><font color="blue" size="+1">4</font></td><td align="center"><a href="http://arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-can/sound.php?s=cung4" target="sound" style="text-decoration: none; "><img src="http://arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-can/img/sounder.gif" border="0"></a></td><td nowrap=""><font size="-1">黃</font><font color="gray" size="-1">(p.48)</font><br><font size="-1">周</font><font color="gray" size="-1">(p.182)</font><br><font size="-1">李</font><font color="gray" size="-1">(p.223)</font><br><font size="-1">何</font><font color="gray" size="-1">(p.355)</font></td><td nowrap=""><a href="http://arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-can/search.php?q=%F0%A8" style="text-decoration: none; ">藂</a>, <a href="http://arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-can/search.php?q=%E7%EB" style="text-decoration: none; ">賨</a>, <a href="http://arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-can/search.php?q=%D5O" style="text-decoration: none; ">徖</a> <a href="http://arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-can/pho-rel.php?s1=c&s2=ung&s3=4" style="text-decoration: none; "><font size="-1"></font></a></td><td><select onchange="MM_jumpMenu('self',this,0)"> <option selected="" value="#">--選擇--</option> <option value="pho-rel.php?s1=c&s2=ung">同聲同韻</option> <option value="pho-rel.php?s2=ung&s3=4">同韻同調</option> <option value="pho-rel.php?s1=c&s3=4">同聲同調</option> </select></td><td><div nowrap="">重申, 重言, 重沓<a href="http://arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-can/search.php?q=%AD%AB#1" onclick="xid_down('cung4_detial')" style="text-decoration: none; "><font size="-1"></font></a></div><div id="cung4_detial" style="display: block; ">重唱, 重婚, 重圍, 重陽, 重演, 重複, 重見天日, 重修舊好, 重操舊業, 重整旗鼓, 重蹈覆轍</div></td></tr><tr><td nowrap="" align="center"><font color="red" size="+1">c</font><font color="green" size="+1">ung</font><font color="blue" size="+1">5</font></td><td align="center"><a href="http://arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-can/sound.php?s=cung5" target="sound" style="text-decoration: none; "><img src="http://arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-can/img/sounder.gif" border="0"></a></td><td nowrap=""><font size="-1">黃</font><font color="gray" size="-1">(p.48)</font><br><font size="-1">周</font><font color="gray" size="-1">(p.182)</font><br><font size="-1">李</font><font color="gray" size="-1">(p.223)</font><br><font size="-1">何</font><font color="gray" size="-1">(p.355)</font></td><td nowrap=""></td><td><select onchange="MM_jumpMenu('self',this,0)"> <option selected="" value="#">--選擇--</option> <option value="pho-rel.php?s1=c&s2=ung">同聲同韻</option> <option value="pho-rel.php?s2=ung&s3=5">同韻同調</option> <option value="pho-rel.php?s1=c&s3=5">同聲同調</option> </select></td><td><div nowrap="">重負, 重量, 重創<a href="http://arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-can/search.php?q=%AD%AB#1" onclick="xid_down('cung5_detial')" style="text-decoration: none; "><font size="-1"></font></a></div><div id="cung5_detial" style="display: block; ">重傷, 重載, 重擔, 重讀, 重工業, 重金屬, 重頭戲, 輕重</div></td></tr><tr><td nowrap="" align="center"><font color="red" size="+1">z</font><font color="green" size="+1">ung</font><font color="blue" size="+1">6</font></td><td align="center"><a href="http://arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-can/sound.php?s=zung6" target="sound" style="text-decoration: none; "><img src="http://arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-can/img/sounder.gif" border="0"></a></td><td nowrap=""><font size="-1">黃</font><font color="gray" size="-1">(p.47)</font><br><font size="-1">周</font><font color="gray" size="-1">(p.182)</font><br><font size="-1">李</font><font color="gray" size="-1">(p.223)</font><br><font size="-1">何</font><font color="gray" size="-1">(p.344)</font></td><td nowrap=""><a href="http://arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-can/search.php?q=%D3%D3" style="text-decoration: none; ">衶</a>, <a href="http://arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-can/search.php?q=%BBw" style="text-decoration: none; ">誦</a>, <a href="http://arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-can/search.php?q=%B3%5E" style="text-decoration: none; ">訟</a> <a href="http://arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-can/pho-rel.php?s1=z&s2=ung&s3=6" style="text-decoration: none; "><font size="-1"></font></a></td><td><select onchange="MM_jumpMenu('self',this,0)"> <option selected="" value="#">--選擇--</option> <option value="pho-rel.php?s1=z&s2=ung">同聲同韻</option> <option value="pho-rel.php?s2=ung&s3=6">同韻同調</option> <option value="pho-rel.php?s1=z&s3=6">同聲同調</option> </select></td><td><div nowrap="">重心, 重點, 重用<a href="http://arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-can/search.php?q=%AD%AB#1" onclick="xid_down('zung6_detial')" style="text-decoration: none; "><font size="-1"></font></a></div><div id="zung6_detial" style="display: block; ">重臣, 重要, 重鎮, 重聽, 慎重, 穩重, 嚴重</div></td></tr></tbody></table><font class="Apple-style-span" face="細明體"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">上去二音並無明顯分別。另外我老師</span></font><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="細明體"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">「重心」一詞讀cung5心。請問這是否是習慣問題？當如何讀呢？</span></font></span></span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; line-height: normal; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; white-space: pre; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; white-space: normal; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="細明體" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;"><br></span></font></span></span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="細明體"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">行字有hang4 haang4二音，我問過幾個同學，大多數詞讀hang4的，也有大多數詞讀haang4的。現在一般哪些詞必須讀haang4？那些詞必須讀hang4？</span></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="細明體" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="細明體"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">多謝。</span></span></font></div> <P>关于「重」字嘅异读问题，《康熙字典》已经详细作出了解释</P><P> </P>
<P>《康熙字典》中关于「重」字嘅注释为：</P>
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<P>《韻會》毛氏曰：凡物不輕而重，則上聲。因其可重而重之，與再重、鄭重，皆去聲。○按《說文》柱用切，厚也，卽與輕重義同。《集韻》柱勇切，愼也，卽與鄭重義同。上去雖有二音，無二義。古人三聲通用，必謂上去異訓，不可通押，此宋人拘泥之過也。
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<P>至于「行」字嘅hang4音与haang4音问题，并没有话哪些必须，取决于乡音及习惯
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<P>皆因「行」字嘅hang4音与haang4音均由中古切音戸庚切演变而成，并无明显差别
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[ 本帖最後由 神七咁早 於 2009-11-23 14:14 編輯 ] <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; line-height: normal; font-size: medium; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: left; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font: normal normal normal 16px/1.6em PMingLiU, Arial, sans-serif !important; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; font-size: 13px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; font-size: large; ">多解解答。</span></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; font-size: large; ">康熙字典結論虽是：<u>上去雖有二音，無二義。古人三聲通用，必謂上去異訓，不可通押，此宋人拘泥之過也。</u></span></div></span><div style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; font-size: large; ">但，康熙字典的編寫者可能沒有語言學之觀念。一個字的意思太多，後世總是容易分化。拿不同時代的音來比較，得出結論不能服眾。</span></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; font-size: large; ">至少我同學的發音是區分二者的。但「凡物不輕而重，則上聲。因其可重而重之，與再重、鄭重，皆去聲。」也不靠譜。</span></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; font-size: large; "><br style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "></span></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; font-size: large; ">我比較想知道現在粵語的發音比較傾向什麼。《</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; font-family: 細明體; border-collapse: collapse; white-space: pre; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="word-wrap: break-word; line-height: normal; font-size: large; ">粵語配音字庫》給出的例字是否可信？</span></span></div></div></span>
[ 本帖最後由 yangmuye 於 2009-11-24 09:35 編輯 ] <P>原帖由 <I>yangmuye</I> 於 2009-11-24 09:33 發表 <A href="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=164017&ptid=19621" target=_blank><IMG onclick=zoom(this) border=0 alt="" src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/common/back.gif" onload="attachimg(this, 'load')"></A> 多解解答。<BR>康熙字典結論虽是：上去雖有二音，無二義。古人三聲通用，必謂上去異訓，不可通押，此宋人拘泥之過也。<BR>但，康熙字典的編寫者可能沒有語言學之觀念。一個字的意思太多，後世總是容易分化。拿不同時代的音來比較，得出結論不能服眾。<BR>至少我同學的發音是區分二者的。但「凡物不輕而重，則上聲。因其可重而重之，與再重、鄭重，皆去聲。」也不靠譜。<BR>我比較想知道現在粵語的發音比較傾向什麼。《粵語配音字庫》給出的例字是否可信？</P>
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<P>你基本无睇明白《康熙字典》所讲嘅嘢</P>
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<P>不同时代嘅音不能比较？想想你老师为何会将「重心」一詞讀cung5心吧</P>
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<P>《粵語配音字庫》嘅例字系可信嘅，其区分方法基本就系按毛氏所讲嘅分法</P>
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<P>简单地说，你老师系《康熙字典》所讲嘅古人，而你同学和《粵語配音字庫》系《康熙字典》所讲嘅宋人</P>
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[ 本帖最後由 神七咁早 於 2009-11-24 10:08 編輯 ] <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">你基本无睇明白《康熙字典》所讲嘅嘢</span><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">多謝提省。我正是把「凡物不</span><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#FF0000"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">輕</span></font><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">而重，則上聲。」誤看作「凡物不</span><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#FF0000"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">重</span></font><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">而重，則上聲。」，以爲「可重而重」是指質量，「不輕而重」是引伸意，才會覺得《字庫》的分類不合此法。由此看來，「不輕而重」多是實指，「可重而重」多作副詞。「重心」一詞兩讀皆通。當然也可能只因我老師系鄉下人，沒讀過書，不識字。沒想到某一日看到「重心」這個詞，心裏想着「好重的一夥心」，然後就cung6心cung6心的讀下去了。。。<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); line-height: 25px; "><img src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/smilies/default/sweat.gif" smilieid="10" border="0"></span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large; "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">不過「古人」和「宋人」少說也差了三百年。而唐朝北方音就已經沒有全濁上聲了，所以這個「古人」必定是不會分「上去」的<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); line-height: 25px; "><img src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/smilies/default/lol.gif" smilieid="12" border="0"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: normal; font-size: large; ">。</span></span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); line-height: 25px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: normal; font-size: large; "><br></span></span></span></div>
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