小狼 發表於 2008-12-26 14:49:57

「咁/噉」、「重/仲」、「咪」的字形共用問題

有數個粵語字,常有字形共用所引起的辨義問題。<br><br>「噉」字應該一向都是借字而已,用以專門表示「gam2」。<br>
因為「gam3」、「gam2」共用「咁」字,有時確會構成誤會。<br>
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其實類似的問題,還有「重」字,有時會造成誤會,<br>「重要」,是「要緊的」,還是「還要」呢?<br>
因此有人明知不是正寫,也借「仲」字來表示「還要」的「zung6」。<br>例如一般的香港報章。<br>
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另外,<br>
「mai5」、「mai6」共用「咪」字也有問題,<br>
「你咪過嚟」,是「你mai5(不要)過來」,還是「你mai6(即管)過來」呢?<br>不知目前有沒什麼方法,解決「咪」字的問題?<br>

Lucciora 發表於 2008-12-26 17:50:29

的確有好多用返本字就引起歧義嘅地方<br>你cung5傷呀 VS 你zung6傷呀<br><br>

Prof.Chui 發表於 2008-12-27 10:52:35

多音多義字 [Polyphonic character]: 咪

<P>你只要搞清楚这个多音字 (polyphone) ,就可以正确运用多音多義字: 咪</P>
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<P>咪,有以下几个发音,各有其意义和用法:[粤拼:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <SPAN class=cardjyutping><EM><FONT color=#0022dd><FONT face=Verdana>mai<SPAN class=tone><FONT size=2>1</FONT></SPAN> mai<SPAN class=tone><FONT size=2>5</FONT></SPAN> mai<SPAN class=tone><FONT size=2>6</FONT></SPAN> mei<SPAN class=tone><FONT size=2>1</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></EM></SPAN> 】</P>
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<P>[<A class="help charlink" onmouseover="return overlib('<span class=\'summary_jyutping\'>jyut<span class=&quot;tone&quot;>6</span></span><br/><span class=\'summary_pinyin\'>yue<span class=&quot;tone&quot;>4</span></span><br/>Cantonese; Guangdong province ',CAPTION,'<div class=\'olibunicodecaption\'>粵</div>', AUTOSTATUS, WRAP);" onmouseout=nd(); href="http://www.cantonese.sheik.co.uk/dictionary/characters/751/"><FONT color=#000000>粵</FONT></A>] mai1<BR>(n) cat's miaow; meow; miaou 猫叫声,书面语<BR><BR>[<A class="help charlink" onmouseover="return overlib('<span class=\'summary_jyutping\'>jyut<span class=&quot;tone&quot;>6</span></span><br/><span class=\'summary_pinyin\'>yue<span class=&quot;tone&quot;>4</span></span><br/>Cantonese; Guangdong province ',CAPTION,'<div class=\'olibunicodecaption\'>粵</div>', AUTOSTATUS, WRAP);" onmouseout=nd(); href="http://www.cantonese.sheik.co.uk/dictionary/characters/751/"><FONT color=#000000>粵</FONT></A>] mai1<BR> study hard; swot&nbsp; 用功学习,叫「咪书」 , 口头语<BR> microphone (transliteration of its first syllable)&nbsp;<SPAN class=chinesemed><SPAN class=mainchar><FONT face=MingLiu color=#0000cc size=5>咪</FONT></SPAN><A class=linkchar href="http://www.cantonese.sheik.co.uk/dictionary/characters/183/"><FONT face=MingLiu color=#992222 size=5>高</FONT></A><A class=linkchar href="http://www.cantonese.sheik.co.uk/dictionary/characters/1820/"><FONT face=MingLiu color=#992222 size=5>峰</FONT></A></SPAN> &nbsp;<SPAN class=summary_jyutping><EM><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffeeee">mai1 gou1 fung1</FONT></EM></SPAN> &nbsp;<SPAN class=summary_pinyin></SPAN> = microphone&nbsp; 用咪唱歌,是借用英语「microphone」的发音,算是港式口语 loanword<BR> mile (transliteration of its first syllable) 香港坐的士,计算多少里,是用英里,也是来自英语的外来语loanword<BR><BR>[<A class="help charlink" onmouseover="return overlib('<span class=\'summary_jyutping\'>jyut<span class=&quot;tone&quot;>6</span></span><br/><span class=\'summary_pinyin\'>yue<span class=&quot;tone&quot;>4</span></span><br/>Cantonese; Guangdong province ',CAPTION,'<div class=\'olibunicodecaption\'>粵</div>', AUTOSTATUS, WRAP);" onmouseout=nd(); href="http://www.cantonese.sheik.co.uk/dictionary/characters/751/"><FONT color=#000000>粵</FONT></A>] mai5<BR>(v) don't; shouldn't; mustn't&nbsp; 不要,不应该做的事,例子: <SPAN class=chinesemed><SPAN class=mainchar><FONT face=MingLiu color=#0000cc size=5>咪</FONT></SPAN><A class=linkchar href="http://www.cantonese.sheik.co.uk/dictionary/characters/3463/"><FONT face=MingLiu color=#992222 size=5>郁</FONT></A></SPAN> &nbsp;<SPAN class=summary_jyutping><EM><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffeeee">mai5 juk1</FONT></EM></SPAN> &nbsp;<SPAN class=summary_pinyin></SPAN> = don't move!<BR><BR>[<A class="help charlink" onmouseover="return overlib('<span class=\'summary_jyutping\'>jyut<span class=&quot;tone&quot;>6</span></span><br/><span class=\'summary_pinyin\'>yue<span class=&quot;tone&quot;>4</span></span><br/>Cantonese; Guangdong province ',CAPTION,'<div class=\'olibunicodecaption\'>粵</div>', AUTOSTATUS, WRAP);" onmouseout=nd(); href="http://www.cantonese.sheik.co.uk/dictionary/characters/751/"><FONT color=#000000>粵</FONT></A>] mai6<BR> (often used with <A class="help charlink" onmouseover="return overlib('<span class=\'summary_jyutping\'>lo<span class=&quot;tone&quot;>1</span> lo<span class=&quot;tone&quot;>4</span> lo<span class=&quot;tone&quot;>3</span></span><br/><span class=\'summary_pinyin\'>luo<span class=&quot;tone&quot;>1</span> luo<span class=&quot;tone&quot;>5</span></span><br/>repetitious ',CAPTION,'<div class=\'olibunicodecaption\'>囉</div>', AUTOSTATUS, WRAP);" onmouseout=nd(); href="http://www.cantonese.sheik.co.uk/dictionary/characters/1629/"><FONT color=#000000>囉</FONT></A>) as a result; then 例子:<SPAN class=chinesemed><SPAN class=mainchar><FONT face=MingLiu color=#0000cc size=5>咪</FONT></SPAN><A class=linkchar href="http://www.cantonese.sheik.co.uk/dictionary/characters/601/"><FONT face=MingLiu color=#992222 size=5>係</FONT></A></SPAN> &nbsp;<SPAN class=summary_jyutping><EM><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffeeee">mai6 hai6/hai6*2</FONT></EM></SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;= to be; exactly so ;&nbsp; 你咪過嚟我度瞓啦!&nbsp; 佢咪衰咗囉!</P>
<P> mai6 (<A class="help charlink" onmouseover="return overlib('<span class=\'summary_jyutping\'>mai<span class=&quot;tone&quot;>1</span> mai<span class=&quot;tone&quot;>5</span> mai<span class=&quot;tone&quot;>6</span> mei<span class=&quot;tone&quot;>1</span></span><br/><span class=\'summary_pinyin\'>mi<span class=&quot;tone&quot;>1</span></span><br/>cat\'s miaow; don\'t ',CAPTION,'<div class=\'olibunicodecaption\'>咪</div>', AUTOSTATUS, WRAP);" onmouseout=nd(); href="http://www.cantonese.sheik.co.uk/dictionary/characters/1030/"><FONT color=#000000>咪</FONT></A>) is actually a sound contraction from m4hai6 (<A class="help wordlink wordbg1" onmouseover="return overlib('<span class=\'summary_jyutping\'>m4 hai6</span><br/><span class=\'summary_pinyin\'></span><br/>not be; am not <a title=\'Cantonese only, (usually spoken but can be written)\'><span class=\'cantonesebox\'>粵</span></a>',CAPTION,'<div class=\'olibunicodecaption\'>唔係</div>', AUTOSTATUS, WRAP);" onmouseout=nd(); href="http://www.cantonese.sheik.co.uk/dictionary/words/1490/"><FONT color=#000000>唔係</FONT></A>).&nbsp; <SPAN class=chinesemed><A class=linkchar href="http://www.cantonese.sheik.co.uk/dictionary/characters/601/"><FONT face=MingLiu color=#992222 size=5>係</FONT></A><SPAN class=mainchar><FONT face=MingLiu color=#0000cc size=5>咪=係唔係</FONT></SPAN></SPAN> &nbsp;<SPAN class=summary_jyutping><EM><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffeeee">hai6 mai6/6*2</FONT></EM></SPAN> &nbsp;<SPAN class=summary_pinyin></SPAN> = to be or not to be<FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffeeee">&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>例子:你係咪美國華僑?</P>
<P><SPAN class=chinesemed><A class=linkchar href="http://www.cantonese.sheik.co.uk/dictionary/characters/601/"><FONT face=MingLiu color=#992222 size=5>係</FONT></A><SPAN class=mainchar><FONT face=MingLiu color=#0000cc size=5>咪</FONT></SPAN><A class=linkchar href="http://www.cantonese.sheik.co.uk/dictionary/characters/560/"><FONT face=MingLiu color=#992222 size=5>先</FONT></A></SPAN> &nbsp;<SPAN class=summary_jyutping><EM><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffeeee">hai6 mai6 sin1</FONT></EM></SPAN> &nbsp;<SPAN class=summary_pinyin></SPAN> = do you agree with me? don't you!</P>
<P><BR><BR>[<A class="help charlink" onmouseover="return overlib('<span class=\'summary_jyutping\'>jyut<span class=&quot;tone&quot;>6</span></span><br/><span class=\'summary_pinyin\'>yue<span class=&quot;tone&quot;>4</span></span><br/>Cantonese; Guangdong province ',CAPTION,'<div class=\'olibunicodecaption\'>粵</div>', AUTOSTATUS, WRAP);" onmouseout=nd(); href="http://www.cantonese.sheik.co.uk/dictionary/characters/751/"><FONT color=#000000>粵</FONT></A>] mei1<BR> close one's mouth smiling&nbsp; 例子: 咪咪嘴笑<BR><BR></P>
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highyun 發表於 2008-12-28 11:41:24

<P>原帖由 <I>Prof.Chui</I> 於 2008-12-27 10:52 發表 <A href="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=127695&amp;ptid=14422" target=_blank><IMG onclick=zoom(this) alt="" src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/common/back.gif" onload="attachimg(this, 'load')" border=0></A> 你只要搞清楚这个多音字 (polyphone) ,就可以正确运用多音多義字: 咪 &nbsp; &nbsp; 咪,有以下几个发音,各有其意义和用法:[粤拼:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; mai1 mai5 mai6 mei1 】 &nbsp; [粵] mai1(n) cat's miaow; meow; miaou ... </P>
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<P>貓叫聲更多人會用「喵」,因為「咪」字,好難會聯想到個miu1或者meu1音。</P>
<P>咪都好少讀mei1音,寫「眯眯嘴」會唔會更好呢?</P>

有疑问 發表於 2008-12-30 15:27:10

<P>「咪」字应该仲有mi呢个音啩?例如:猫咪(mi1)、妈咪(mi4)、朱咪咪(mi1 mi4)。</P>
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<P>但系粤语审音配词字库只收录咗以下读音。</P>

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