[原創]廣州粵語「谿」讀作[hei1]──苦兮切,表示女人陰部,因為「穴道」叫作「谿」
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">1</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">、「徯徑」:小路,「徯隧」:狹窄的小道。“徯”、「蹊」、「谿」</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">3</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">字有「通道」之函意。廣州粵語音韻規則谿母字讀</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman"></FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">,廣州粵語「谿」讀作</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman"></FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">──苦兮切,表示女人陰部,因為「穴道」叫作「谿」,陽谿</SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman"> </FONT><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">《內經》云:“肉之小會爲谿”。凡經气行至凹隙處,多取名:谿、谷、淵、池、泉、……。“谿”字的《說文解字》字義注釋:「山瀆無所通者。從谷、奚聲。苦兮切」「谿谷」詳細字義:</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">(1)</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">山間的河溝。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">(2)</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">人體部位名。指肢體肌肉之間相互接觸的縫隙或凹陷部位。大的縫處稱谷或大谷,小的凹陷處稱谿或小谿。《素問·气穴論》:“肉之大會爲谷,肉之小會爲谿。”</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">(3)</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">泛指經絡穴位。谷,相當十二經脈循行的部位;谿,相當三百六十五個經穴的部位。《素問·五藏生成篇》:“人有大谷十二分,小谿三百五十四名,少十二俞。”以下之「谿、谷」都表示「穴道」:──《黃帝內經·素問·气穴論篇第五十八》:「岐伯曰:孫絡三百六十五穴會,亦以應一歲,以溢奇邪,……以通榮衛,見而寫之,無問所會。帝曰:善。願聞谿谷之會也。岐伯曰:肉之大會爲谷,肉之小會爲谿,……。」</SPAN></FONT></P><P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT size=3>《黃帝內經·素問》:「諸脈者皆屬於目,諸髓者皆屬於腦,諸筋者皆屬於節,諸血者皆屬於心,諸气者皆屬於肺,此四支八谿之朝夕也。故人臥血歸於肝,肝受血而能視,足受血而能步,掌受血而能握,指受血而能攝。」</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT size=3>「四肢八谿」或寫作「四支八谿」《黃帝內經·素問》集注:「四肢:五臟經俞之所出也。八谿:即四肢股肱之肉,五臟元真之所通會也,此言五臟之經血總屬於心。五臟之气總屬於肺,經气循行於四肢八谿。」</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT size=3>《黃帝內經》:「帝曰:『余聞上古聖人,論理人形,列別臟腑,端絡經脈,會通六合,各從其經;气穴所發,各有處名;谿谷屬骨,皆有所起;分部逆從,各有條理;四時陰陽,盡有經紀;內外之應,皆有表裏。其信然乎?』」</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">“谿”字的基本字義●谿</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">xī</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">ㄒㄧ◎同“溪”。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">English</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">◎</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">valley, gorge; mountain stream</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">。詳細字義◎谿豀</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman"> xī</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">〈名〉</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">(1)</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">形聲,從水、奚聲,本義:山溝、山谷。同本義——</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman"></FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">:谿,谷也。——《廣雅》</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT size=3>若高山之與深谿。——《呂氏春秋·察微》。注:“無水曰谿。”</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT size=3>川曰谿。李注:“出於山入於川爲谿也。”——《爾雅·釋水·水注》</FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">2</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">、“徯”、「蹊」按照反切音讀作</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">xí</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">ㄒㄧˊ,“徯”、「蹊」無</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">xī</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">ㄒㄧ音,“徯”、「蹊」共有胡雞切、戸禮切、胡計切</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">3</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">音,《康熙字典》失收胡計切,「徐鉉」注釋本《說文解字》收了胡計切。「鼠谿部」、「鼠蹊部」、「鼠徯部」指的是下腹部與雙側下肢</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">(</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">腿部</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">)</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">連接的部位,即我們常說的腹股溝,位於大腿內側生殖器兩旁。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman"> “</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">徯”字的《說文解字》</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">(</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">「徐鉉」注釋本</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">)</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">字義注釋:「待也。從彳、奚聲。蹊,徯或從足。胡計切。」“徯”、「蹊」基本詞義◎徯、蹊</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">xī</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">〈名〉</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">(1)</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">形聲,從彳、奚聲;從足、奚聲。本寫作徯,本義:等待</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">(</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">等候、期待</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">)</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">。“徯</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">”</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">字的詞性變化◎徯</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">xī</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">、</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">xí</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">〈名〉</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">(1)</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">通“蹊”,小路——</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman"></FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">:《通俗文》:「邪道曰徯,步道曰徑。」《禮記·月令》:「孟冬之月,謹關梁,塞徯徑。」</SPAN></FONT></P> 又搞啲噉嘅研究,仲要越搞越離譜~ <P>關於此字大部分書籍都係認為"屄"為本字,不過我都係有懷疑嘅.</P>
<P>傳統嘅粵語女陰叫法有兩個,一為"啤"(此音本字為"屄"無疑),另一個係"閪"(hai1或hei1),雖然粵審寫"屄"有一個異讀音"hai1,但係我總認為本字應另有其字.夢星羽君以前曾發表過看法,有興趣嘅朋友可以抄下.樓主此帖可備一說.....</P>
<P>PS:樓上不妨繼續去"唱衰廣州",無謂打擊新來朋友嘅研究熱情,畢竟新人發帖同我地share見解,並非一件"離譜"事情</P>
[此帖子已經被作者於2007-7-24 14:42:06編輯過]
我唔想喺度鬧交,但我都要講句,我做嘅嘢絕對有意義過你喺度咬文嚼字 <P>你覺得有意義儘管去做,呢方面我支持.但係都係講嗰句.</P>
<P>你覺你好有意義都好,唔一定個個都讚同.就係有人覺得研究文字比你去唱來得有意義都好正常.</P>
<P>至於呢個帖算唔算咬文嚼字,你自己睇清楚好過.</P> <P><FONT face=新細明體>呢張帖講得有道理。</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=新細明體>我之前覺得係 Gai 變讀成 Hai。</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=新細明體>多謝Iunn5嘅帖。好有意義。有意思過隔離帖。</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=PMingLiU>多啲嚟玩喇。</FONT></P> 首先更正一下,粵語的“女性生殖器”應該讀“hai1”,而不是“hei1”。<br><br>我認爲此字是“兮”。<br>“兮”,胡雞切,現在粵語讀作“hai4”,<br>“hai4”爲陽平,而“hai1”爲陰平,<br>粵語中,陽平與陰平有互換的現象,如“姐姐”,第一個“姐”讀陽平,第二個“姐”讀陰平。<br>而且普語讀“xī”,爲陰平。<br>因此,“兮”字的粵語應該可以發“hai1”音。<br><br>“兮”本無“女性生殖器”的意思,<br>但在古代,“兮”字與“也”字通用,<br>而“也”字的本義正正就是指“女性生殖器”。<br>《說文解字》:“也,女陰也”。<br>段玉裁的《說文解字注》:“也,女侌(陰)也。此篆女陰是本義。……兮也古通,故《毛詩》兮也二字,他書所稱或互易。”<br>朱駿聲的《說文通訓定聲》:“也,女陰也。象形。……又與兮通用,《毛詩》兮也二字,他書所引或互易。”<br><br>“兮”、“也”兩字通用,故“兮”字也可用來指“女陰”,今粵語用此極古。<br><br>“也”,《唐韻》音“野”,現在廣東話所說的“扑也”(性交,俗寫“扑嘢”,扑,小擊。粵語中,凡用鈍器擊打皆可稱“扑”,或寫作“?”)、“搞也”(性交,“搞嘢”),裏面的“也”字用的就是本義,可爲旁證。<br><br>至於“屄”字,是後起字,成字時間應該在明代,本身就是俗字,哪里談得上本字。<br><br> 屄屌?等字成日被人供爲本字,然而幾字本身就係俗字 <P>hei1為廣東省發佈嘅粵語拼音方案</P>
<P>如:輝 廣東粵拼注為"fei1"</P>
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