CA拉粵字（Läiyừdjì）方案

ca637 發表於 2012-3-1 18:48:28

本帖最後由 ca637 於 2012-3-3 21:59 編輯

CA拉粵字CA Läiyừdjì最後修改：2012年3月3日
簡介：1. 本方案基於粵語拼音字（Penkyampji）。2. 本方案縮短了某寫聲母和韻母的拼寫，比原本的拼寫更為科學。3. 本方案適合「能編碼Unicode的電腦」使用，而「未來電腦對不同字元的支援度會增加」，亦可使用本方案。4. 關於Penkyampji的其他特點可參考此網址。
一、字母表Аа Bb Cc Dd Ee Ff Gg Hh Ii Jj Kk Ll Mm NnŇň Оо Øø Pp Qq Ss Tt Uu Ưư Ww Xx Yy Zz

二、輔音表b波p婆m摸f科 d多 t拖 n挪l羅г哥 к卡 х何x瓜 q誇 j左z左c初s梳y也 w華ň我

三、元音表a a呀 ai挨au拗 am監 an晏 aq橫 ab鴨ad押ag客ă ay矮aw歐аmp庵ant恩 ax鶯 ap急at不 ak德e e借 eu掉 em舐 eq鏡 eb夾 eg尺ĕ ey非 ex英i i衣 iu妖 im淹 in煙 ib葉 id熱o o哥 oi哀 on安 oq康 od渴 og惡ŏ oy去 ow奧 ont春 ox沖 ot律 ok屋ø ø靴 øq香 øg約u u烏 ui會 un碗 ud活ư ư於 ưb冤 ưd月mm唔ň ng五
藍字 = 短元音，不會實際採用
四、標調第一調陰平(55) 陰入(5) 周調：ӓ ё ӥ ӧ ӱ ӭ ӹ詩/式第二調陰上(35) 口口(0) 口調：а̃ е̃ и̃ о̃ у̃ э̃ ы̃史第三調陰去(33) 中入(3) 店調：а̂ е̂ и̂ о̂ у̂ э̂ ы̂試/錫第四調陽平(21) 口口(0) 河調：а е и о у э ы時第五調陽上(13) 口口(0) 母調：а́ е́ и́ о́ у́ э́ ы́市第六調陽去(22) 陽入(2) 渡調：а̀ ѐ ѝ о̀ у̀ э̀ ы̀是/食

penkyamp 發表於 2012-3-1 19:43:59

请 ca637 网搜 Meallan 的「法兰西方案」， Felix Wan 的 Vietnamese Cantonese 及 Xiss 的 Penkyamp 「字典式」，「字典体」方案。

贵修改方案与这三者的精神，是一致的。希望可以和他们参照一下。

愚以为 Felix Wan 的 Vietnamese Cantonese 尤为严谨。
我也对 Xiss 的「字典式」提了意见，并贴了我自己的修改方案，以图贴出，因为很多字母组合是没有 Unicode 的。

penkyamp 發表於 2012-3-1 19:46:36

「字典体」一名是我起的。如果网搜 penkyamp 字典体，可以找到 Xiss 的方案。因为我的沙发上提到该名。

愚以为，这些修改方案，最适合作为字典体，因为无需额外学习为什么 Penkyamp 用比较独特的韵尾拼法来表达独特的长短韵腹关系。凡字典体，贵无需学拼法，直接无师自通。

ca637 發表於 2012-3-1 20:16:21

其實Unicode基本上有全部嘅字元，用combining diacritic就得，例如：

ä, b̂, 4̃, @́, ụ̈́

全部都可以打到

penkyamp 發表於 2012-3-2 15:01:07

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penkyamp 發表於 2012-3-2 15:59:44

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<div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">经典广东话拼音例文：</font></div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br></font></div>请将下面这些 Penkyamp 粤文转换为贵方案，供诸位欣赏：</font><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">1</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><div>Sâygâi yantkeun seünyin</div><div>《世界人权宣言》</div><div>广东话拼音版 Universal Declaration of Human Rights: Cantonese Penkyamp Version</div><div>"Sâygâi Yantkeun Seünyin" Guõngdönkwã Pênkyämp Bãn</div><div> </div><div>Dày Yät Tiu:</div><div>Yantyant sänk yi jìyaw, hãy jeünyim tonk keunlèy seòng yätlòt penkdãnk.</div><div>Kóydèy fûyáw léysênk tonk leongsämp, bènk yënkgöi yí hënkdày guänhày gê jënksant seöng dôydòi.</div><div><br></div><div> </div><div>Article 1 All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.</div><div> </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Jòyyin:</div><div>Gâmyeüdôy yantlòy gätenk sõyáw senkyeun gê gûyáw jeünyim kàpkey penkdãnk gêtonk bätyi gê keunlèy gê senkyènk, náihày sâygâi jìyaw, jênkyì tonkwopenk gê gëycõ,gâmyeü dôy yantkeun gê mowsì tonk mowmìd yígënkfâdjĩn way yéman bòwhànk, nëydïd bòwhànk dïmwü jõ yantlòy gê leongsämp,yi yätgô yantyant heõngyáw yinlònt tonk sôntyeóng jìyaw bènk mínyeühõnkgòy tonk kuâyfàt gê sâygâi gê loilamp, yígënk bèy seünbôw waypõwtönk yantmant gê jôygöw yeùnmòng,gamyeü wày sãy yantloy bätjîyeü bëkbätdäkyî ténkyijãwhĩm dôy bòwjênk tonk ngâdbëk jônthankfãnbùn, yáw bïdyîu sãy yantkeun sàw fâdjì gê bõwwù,gâmyeü yáw bïdyîu cökjônt gôgguôg gän yáwhõw guanhày gê fâdjĩn,gâmyeügôg Leunhàpguôg guôggä gê yantmant yígënk hãy Leunhàpguôg Hînjeöng jönkconksänt kóydèy dôy gëybũn yantkeun, yantgâg jeünyim tonk gâjèk yíkàpnamnóy penkdãnk keunlèy gê sôntnìm, bènk keûdsämp cöksenk gâudài jìyawjönk gê séwũi jôntbòw tonk sänkwùd sõypenk gê gõisìn,gâmyeü gôwũiyeunguôg yìbyí sâyyeùn tonk Leunhàpguôg hàpjôg yí cökjônt dôyyantkeun tonk gëybũn jìyaw gê põwpîn jeünjònk tonk jeünhank,gâmyeü dôy nẽydïd keunlèy tonk jìyaw gê põwpîn líugãi dôyyeü nëygô sayyeùn gê cönkfànt sàtyìn gôyyáw hõw dài gê jònkyîusênk,yäntcĩ, yigã, hãy bũn dàiwũi fâdbôw nëyyät "Sâygâi Yantkeun Seünyin", jôgway sõyáw yantmant tonk sõyáw guôggä nówlèk sàtyìn gê gònktonkbïujõnt, yí keydòi múiyätgô yant tonk séwúi gëykâw gënkseong ménkgêybũn seünyin, nówlèk tönkguô gâufûi tonk gâuyók cökjônt dôy keunlèy tonkjìyaw gê jeünjònk, bènk tönkguô guôggä gê tonk guôgjây gê jìmjôntcôwsï, sãy nëydïd keunlèy tonk jìyaw hãy gôg wũiyeunguôg bũnsäntyantmant kàp key hàtà lénktõw gê yantmant jönk däkdôw põwpîn tonkyáwhàu gê senkyènk tonk jönthank.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Dày yì tiu</div><div><br></div><div>Yantyant yáw jï gâg heõng yáw bũn seün yin sõ jôi gê yät cây keun lèy wo jìyaw,bät fänt jõnk jòk,fü sëk,sênk bìd,yeú yin,jönk gâu,jênk jì wàg keytä gîn gãi,guôg jèk wàg sé wũi cöt sänt,coi cãn,cöt sänk wàg key täsänt fãnt dãnk yàmp ho köy bìd.</div><div>Bènkcẽ bät däk yänt yät yant sõ sòk gê gũog gä wàg lénk tõw gê jênk jìgê,hank jênk gê wàg jẽ guôg jây gê dèy wày jï bät tonk yi yáw sõ köybìd,mow lònt göi lénk tõw sì dòk làb lénk tõw,tôg gũn lénk tõw,fëy jìjì lénk tõw wàg jẽ ceú yeü key tä yàmp ho jeũ keun sàw hàn jây gê cenkfông jï hà.</div></font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">2</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">巴别塔</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br></font></div><div><li style="margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; line-height: 1.4em; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; "><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">Gõjàntsĩ, tïnhà sõyáw yant gê yeúyin ceunbòw döwhày yätyeòng.</li><li style="margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; line-height: 1.4em; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; ">Kóydèy yätjèk heông dönkbïn cïnyi, hãy Sìna gîndõw yätpîn penkyeun, jàw ngöndènk lòglay.</li><li style="margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; line-height: 1.4em; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; ">Kóydèy seöngleong hàw dôy dàigä gõng: "Lay, ngó-dèy yîu jeöng jeün sïu tâw lay jòw jeün." Yeüsì kóydèy lõ jeün dông sègtaw, yàw lõ sègcät dông füinay yònk.</li><li style="margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; line-height: 1.4em; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; ">Kôydèy yàw dôy dàigä wà: "Lay, ngó-dèy yîu gînjòw yät gô senksí, tonk yät jò göwtâb, tâbdẽng yîu tönktïn, lay wày ceunyeong ngó-dèy gê menkjì, fãwjäk ngó-dèy jàwwúi fäntsân yeü nïgô sâygâi bättonk gê gôglög.</li><li style="margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; line-height: 1.4em; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; ">Yewo-wa gônglamp yantgän, yîu tãyhá sâyyant sõ gînjòw gê senksí tonk göwtâb.</li><li style="margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; line-height: 1.4em; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; ">Yewo-wa wà: "Tãyhá, kóydèy senkway yätjî gê yantmant, ceunbòw döw gõng tonkyät gê yeúyin, yeugämp kóydèy jòw däkhẽy nï gìn sì lay, yíhàw kóydèy seõng jów gê yé, yätdènk mwúi jòw m-dõw."</li><li style="margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; line-height: 1.4em; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; ">"Lay, dãnk ngó-dèy lòghôy gãuleùn kóydèy gê yeúyin , gãmp kóydèy jàw käwtönk mdõw."</li><li style="margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; line-height: 1.4em; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; ">Yeüsì Yewo-wa jeöng kóydèy fäntsân yeü sâygâi bättonk gê gôglög, kóydèy jàw tenkgönk, mjôi gâyjòk gînjòw senksí lâg.</li><li style="margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; line-height: 1.4em; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; ">Yäntwày Yewo-wa hãy gõ-dòw gãuleùn sâi sâyyant gê yeúyin, lènkdôw tïnhà yantmant fäntsân yeü sâygâi mtonk gê gôglög, sõ-yí gõ-gô senksí jàw gîujòw Bä-bûiyí tâb.</li></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><div><br></div></font></div><div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</font></div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">3</font></div><div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><div>北风同太阳</div><div><br></div><div>Yáwyàt, Bäkfönk tonk Tâiyeong jäng bïngô jôy lëg.  Kóydèy tonkyî, bïngô sïn mög lòwyant dï säm, bïngô jàw yeng. Bäkfönk sïn sî kóy gê lèkleòng, yònklèk gãmp cöy. Dànhày fönk yeùd dài, gõgô lòwyant jeöng kóy gìn säm lãm däk yeùd gãnt. Hàwmëy, Bäkfönk m wãn lâg, gîu Tâiyeong cötlay, tãytãy kóy gê bũnsì. Tâiyeong hõw fâi gãmp fâdcöt sõ-yáw gê sâylèk. Mównöi, gõgô lòwyant gôgdäk Tâiyeong neún-näpnäp, jàw jeöng dï säm yätgĩngìn  gãmp mög lòglay. Hàwmëy, yìd dôw dẽnk m sònt lâg, jàw mög guöng sâi dï säm, hãy lòwbïn tiu ho dòw cönkleong. Bäkfönk wayyáw senkyènk, dôwdãy hày Tâiyeong säylèy.</div><div><br></div></font><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><div><br></div></font></div></div><div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</font></div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></font></div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">4</font></div><div><div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><div>南海潮 Nam Hõi Ciu</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Honkha mún sã Yeùd tïn dönk pôhiũ</div><div>Jënkjënkyàtseóng jòy wajeöng</div><div>Honkmin jĩgënk yàw tïm cïnbâg dõ</div><div>Yäntyänt mànsây jeòng</div><div>Ngó gîn göngciu yïyin töy hẽy ná sänbãn</div><div>Keôgsì ceün guô yôkyeúkenklaw sänt lêng gẽnk</div><div>Ngó gîu hõiciu bötow bätyîu jé hönkyõnk</div><div>Gâg jeù yät pîn mànléy dàiyeong guäysämpcîd</div><div><br></div></font></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br></font></div><div><div><font size="4" face="Tahoma"><br></font></div><div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</font></div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></font></div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">5</font></div><div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">不妨常做岭南人<br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></font><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">ngó tënggîn lohòw ceun hõingòi</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">wùnhẽy wofönk hà cïncïn yìb seun</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">yéu guänt tonk fàt láwgöng sèong</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">gîn sänfönk hẽyfòk sän yàw lin</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">yantdòw bätfong ceong jòw lénknam yant</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">múi tïm yät ceûn honkyïneong guâ jïtaw</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">yáhõy gämpsây tonkjòy yätföng jĩ yeunfànt</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">jôi sẽong hõyyeùn loisänk leóngcïn nin</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">----</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">leóngcïn nin sì soy tïnhà</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">lògjöi namsän hà föng sìtow</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">fôngjäw yeúnyeong jòi gämpsän ngòn</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">waijönk heöngtõwyeòng wénk bõwceun</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">yeùn jòw tonktonk honkmin cïn ceõ yẽnk namyeùd</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">sòntgöng pïu lòg yawjĩ lòy guâ yïseong</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">néy hĩu jĩmey yiumòng tïnnam fõhonk yàt</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">pînhäk cönkyàp wantsïu nòi</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">yeú tïn cay göwjîu</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">----</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">yantdòw bätfong ceong jòw lénknam yant</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">múi tïm yät ceûn honkyïneong guâ jïtaw</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">yáhõy gämpsây tonkjòy yätföng jĩ yeunfànt</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">jôi sẽong hõyyeùn loisänk leóngcïn nin</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">nandòw söngtin cank sì cönghõi seõng campyàt</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">sâw jeöng yät deùn loyĩ fâ göngho</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">gûheöng bätjôi ceông yeugö jãy sämp nan mèy</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">bûnhönk yät lont wänyeùd jîu guäyfan</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">wayyeùn fâjòw honkmin cïndeõ yẽnk namyeùd</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">sònt göng pïu lòg yawjĩ lòy tóng yïseong</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">néy hĩu jĩmey yiumòng tïnnam fõhonk yàt</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">pînhäk cönkpô wantsïu seòng</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">yeú tïn cay göwjîu</font></div></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br></font></div><div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</font></div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></font></div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">6</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><div>淡江凉 Dàm Göng leong</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Towfä yätyè yím sän honk</div><div>Mowfäguõ sàt jì gämptim</div><div>Pasän want â guôhàw yàttãw yim hëyhëy</div><div>Yàttãw ceong â sïnìm Dàm Göng leong</div><div>Dàm Göng hãwngòn pâg hõiseun</div><div>Toiwän yät yàt dôw Gämpmun</div><div>Yeùn jeöng menkyeùd ngäwjeù sòntfönk fan hëyhëy</div><div>Yàmp sänt lawlòng sämp jònk jòi tïn nam</div><div>Sày jeöng Ngäw Yeùd mànceong lòw jĩn deũn</div><div>Yawjĩ guäymòw yeògyin towfä geùn</div><div>Lògfä sifànt pïulòg jòi gäntpun</div><div>Dàm Göng sõy lawyàp Dönkhõi yàw jòwfän want</div></font></div><div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br></font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br></font></div><div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</font></div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></font></div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">7</font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br></font></div><div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><div>《春田花花幼稚園校歌》</div><div><br></div><div>Cönt tin fä fä yâw jì yeũn hàu gö</div><div>---</div><div>Ngó mun sì fâi lòg dëk hõw yi tonk</div><div>ngó mun tïn tïn yät hẽy ceông gö</div><div>Ngó mun jòi hòg jàb</div><div>ngó mun jòi senk jeõng</div><div>ngó mun sì cönt tïn dëk fä</div><div>Ngó mun sì mèy loi dëk jeũ yant yönk</div><div>ngó mun sì sé wũi dëk dònk leong</div><div>Hàu jeõng néy hõw mâ</div><div>lów sï néy hõw mâ</div><div>ngó mun tïn tïn mànt hàw néy</div><br></font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br></font></div><div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</font></div><font 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hôn bëk hönk guõng fûd hòw hêy yeong</div><div>Jëk sì nam yi döng jì keong</div><div>Keong bòw ténk hönk dâi gä jôg dònk leong jòw hõw hông</div><div>Yònk ngó bâg dĩm yìd yìu cöt cïn fänt guöng</div><div>Jòw gô hõw hông jĩ</div><div>Yìd sênk honk yàt guöng</div></font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font 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ca637 發表於 2012-3-3 02:29:45

已更新，改變了ku, gu聲母及ng, nk尾音

penkyamp 發表於 2012-3-4 16:34:38

请将以上「经典例文」转写成粤拉

另有十分优秀的例文
http://bbs.cantonese.asia/thread-28127-1-2.html
粤译颉檀吒利逐篇
http://bbs.cantonese.asia/thread-28232-1-2.html
巴哈伊隱言集粵譯

请兼转写

penkyamp 發表於 2012-3-4 19:05:32

另外在大众化时，请三思是否采用 x, q, 这两个在传统中比较孤立的韵尾的使用法。其他如对 ø ư 的采用则无异议。

ca637 發表於 2012-3-4 20:09:51

北風同太陽 Bäkföx tox Tâiyøq

Yáwyàt, Bäkföx tox Tâiyøq jäq bïngô jôy lëg.Kóydèy toxyî, bïngô sïn mög lòwyant dï säm, bïngô jàw yeq. Bäkföx sïn sî kóy gê lèklø̀q, yòxlèk gãmp cöy. Dànhày föx yừd dài, gõgô lòwyant jø̈q kóy gìn säm lãm däk yừd gãnt. Hàwmëy, Bäkföx m wãn lâg, gîu Tâiyøq cötlay, tãytãy kóy gê bũnsì. Tâiyøq hõw fâi gãmp fâdcöt sõ-yáw gê sâylèk. Mównöi, gõgô lòwyant gôgdäk Tâiyøq nứn-näpnäp, jàw jø̈q dï säm yätgĩngìn gãmp mög lòglay. Hàwmëy, yìd dôw dẽx m sònt lâg, jàw mög xöng sâi dï säm, hãy lòwbïn tiu ho dòw cöxløq. Bäkföx wayyáw sexyèx, dôwdãy hày Tâiyøq säylèy.

ca637 發表於 2012-3-4 20:16:51

「q」和「x」的韻尾使用法，本人曾考慮應否使用。此兩個字母在Penkyamp中沒有使用，因此可用作簡短拼式。而「q」和「x」這對就像「i」跟「y」這對一樣，是一對。我沒有正式研究語言學，可能知識有限。但我知道越南語中「Dd」的南部發音是/j/，即Penkyamp的「y」聲母，所以字母代表的「音」不一定要有先例（雖然越南語的「D」可能有先例，我不知道）。如有錯誤，請提點。

penkyamp 發表於 2012-3-4 20:20:42

本帖最後由 penkyamp 於 2012-3-4 20:24 編輯

<font face="Tahoma" size="5">我给个更传统的版本，只改元音两个，你比较下看看<br><br><br>北風同太陽 Bäkfönk tonk Tâiyøng<br><br>Yáwyàt, Bäkfönk tonk Tâiyøng jäng bïngô jôy lëg.  Kóydèy tonkyî, bïngô sïn mög lòwyant dï säm, bïngô jàw yeng. Bäkfönk sïn sî kóy gê lèklø̀ng, yònklèk gãmp cöy. Dànhày fönk yừd dài, gõgô lòwyant jø̈ng kóy gìn säm lãm däk yừd gãnt. Hàwmëy, Bäkfönk m wãn lâg, gîu Tâiyøng cötlay, tãytãy kóy gê bũnsì. Tâiyøng hõw fâi gãmp fâdcöt sõ-yáw gê sâylèk. Mównöi, gõgô lòwyant gôgdäk Tâiyøng nứn-näpnäp, jàw jø̈ng dï säm yätgĩngìn gãmp mög lòglay. Hàwmëy, yìd dôw dẽnk m sònt lâg, jàw mög guöng sâi dï säm, hãy lòwbïn tiu ho dòw cönkløng. Bäkfönk wayyáw senkyènk, dôwdãy hày Tâiyøng säylèy.</font>

ca637 發表於 2012-3-4 20:21:43

「q」在英語中拼字是絕大部份時間會與「u」拼在一起，例如「queen」。所以在CA拉粵字作「ku」音。
而「x」則是與「q」成對最合理的字，因為此字沒有什麼「標準」發音（當然可能我是錯的）。

在手寫體，「ng」裡的「g」跟「q」相似，所以直覺地成為「ng」，而「nk」則是在聲母時與「q」成對的「x」。

ca637 發表於 2012-3-4 20:25:44

本帖最後由 ca637 於 2012-3-4 22:22 編輯

Penkyamp：189字元
Pexyamp：102字元

由於「ng」及「nk」韻尾在實際使用時常常出現，Pexyamp明顯令拼式簡短了。

penkyamp 發表於 2012-3-5 08:07:39

本帖最後由 penkyamp 於 2012-3-5 08:09 編輯

penkyamp 经典例文 10

北国
fönkyìb honk

cank gêydäk dönkguây màn-tïn seûd pïulòg,
yonkyàp hà-guây cönkcôy jönk.
yi ná cïnléy ceonghönk dëk guäyngàn,
yaw gànt yi yeún yí fëyguô.

hônjeòg lòw mànmàn,
jônksĩ döw gënkguô,
yenk jòi ngó sämp dîddòng.

jòi jé cäwtïn,
bäkguôg yàwjôi fönkyìb honk,
jèkyeong soyhà
dâijeòg ngó sämptônk.

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