正正 發表於 2009-7-6 21:30:45

见到有人说粤语有声母23个韵母68个, 很疑惑! 謹请知者说說.

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[ 本帖最後由 正正 於 2009-7-6 21:31 編輯 ]

攸固 發表於 2009-7-7 03:41:16

為何你不問佢?<br>

正正 發表於 2009-7-7 13:06:05

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<P>3年几前忌帖,唔问佢喇!</P>
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<P>我已经匚汉语吧发帖问呢个问题,如果佢见到,相信会回答嘅!</P>
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<P>己有网友解答,但韻母数量唔啱,如下:</P>
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<P>粤语拼音其中一种方案:广州话拼音方案--------- <BR><BR>声母表 <BR>b波&nbsp;p婆&nbsp;m摸&nbsp;f科&nbsp;d多&nbsp;t拖&nbsp;n挪&nbsp;l罗&nbsp;g哥&nbsp;k卡&nbsp;ng我&nbsp;h何&nbsp;gu姑&nbsp;ku箍&nbsp;z左&nbsp;c初&nbsp;s梳&nbsp;j知&nbsp;q雌&nbsp;x思&nbsp;y也&nbsp;w华&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR><BR>韵母表 <BR>a呀&nbsp;o柯&nbsp;u乌&nbsp;i衣ū于&nbsp;ê(靴)&nbsp;é诶&nbsp;m唔&nbsp;n五&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>ai挨ei矮oi哀ui会&nbsp;éi(非)&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>ao拗eo欧ou奥&nbsp;iu妖&nbsp;êu(去)&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>am(监)em庵&nbsp;im淹&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>an晏en(恩)on安un碗&nbsp;in烟&nbsp;ūn冤ên(春)&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>ang(横)eng莺ong(康)ung瓮&nbsp;ing英&nbsp;êng(香)éng(镜)&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>ab鸭eb(急)ib叶&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>ad押ed(不)od(渴)ud活id热ūd月êd(律)&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>ag(客)eg(德)og恶ug屋ig益&nbsp;êg(约)ég(尺)&nbsp; <BR><BR>声调表&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>名称:&nbsp;阴平&nbsp;阳平&nbsp;阴上&nbsp;阳上&nbsp;阴去&nbsp;阳去&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>阴入&nbsp;中入&nbsp;阳入&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>符号:&nbsp;1&nbsp;2&nbsp;3&nbsp;4&nbsp;5&nbsp;6</CC> </P>
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<P>另外顺便讲下:</P>
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<P><STRONG><FONT color=darkorange size=4>对於 攸固兄弟 查究广话本字忌鍥而不捨精神,本人深为敬佩!</FONT></STRONG></P>
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<P><STRONG><FONT color=red size=5>我觉得需要有人咁做、咁糸好有意义嘅!!!</FONT></STRONG></P>
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meallanfearghai 發表於 2009-7-28 12:16:29

或許他是指粵語有68個元音組合。

xiss 發表於 2009-7-28 13:56:13

粵語嘅韻母大概共有52個。不過佢可能真係喺道話粵語嘅元音組合呢<br>

正正 發表於 2009-7-28 21:25:55

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<P>感謝 meallanfearhai 君、xiss 君解答.</P>
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嶺南散人 發表於 2009-7-29 11:21:06

<P>計算方法勿同,實質上係一樣。</P>

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正正 發表於 2009-8-1 22:14:48

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<P>感謝 嶺南散人兄弟 解答.</P>
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