【转自汉网】南乡子：汉语胡化论者篡改著名人类学者著作的手法卑鄙的令人发指！
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line-height: 22px; ">汉语胡化论者为把野蛮落後的胡人们吹捧成神奇伟大的人群，为污蔑现代汉语，尤其是汉民族共同语（今称普通话）是「胡汉语」而肆意撒谎的行为，除了鄙人在《<a href="http://www.hanminzu.com/bbs/list.asp?boardid=8&page=1" target="_blank" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); line-height: 22px; "><font color="blue" style="line-height: 27px; font-size: 18px; "><font size="3" style="line-height: 24px; ">【铁血丹心～兴汉版】</font></font></a><font color="blue" style="line-height: 27px; font-size: 18px; "><font size="3" style="line-height: 24px; "> → 谈谈现代汉语非胡化语以及科技用语上的优越性》</font></font><a href="http://www.hanminzu.com/bbs/dispbbs.asp?boardid=8&star=1&replyid=256100&id=47073&skin=0&page=1" target="_blank" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); line-height: 22px; ">http://www.hanminzu.com/bbs/dispbbs.asp?boardid=8&star=1&replyid=256100&id=47073&skin=0&page=1</a> 的一些帖中已经指出的外，现发现汉语胡化论者竟然卑鄙到了公然篡改中国著名人类学者、广西民族学院教授徐杰舜先生主编的《雪球------汉民族的人类学分析》著作！</p><p style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 22px; ">汉语胡化论者在《<font color="#0000ff" style="line-height: 22px; ">谈谈现代汉语非胡化语以及科技用语上的优越性</font>》中的第185 楼至187楼跟帖（因自称是转帖，所以在本帖中就使用不特指个人的「汉语胡化论者」称呼）实际上是剽窃篡改《雪球------汉民族的人类学分析》<font color="#ee1111" style="line-height: 22px; ">第656-657页</font>的《1. 北京官话的形成》等部分，且塞进了少数民族如何强大，大量北京话胡化的私货而成的。</p><p style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 22px; ">具体的私货例子有：</p><p style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 22px; ">「早在隋唐时期，北京已是边陲重镇，是历代汉族和少数民族冲突与<b style="line-height: 22px; ">融合最频繁</b>的地区之一。」 ------<font color="#ee1111" style="line-height: 22px; ">这是原文中没有的。</font></p><p style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 22px; ">「在历史上，北京话既和当地少数民族语言（<b style="line-height: 22px; ">主要是阿尔泰语系的语言</b>）不断产生交流」------<font color="#ee1111" style="line-height: 22px; ">这是原文中没有的。</font></p><p style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 22px; ">「契丹把析津府（今北京）定为南京，成为辽代五京之一。西元1153年，<b style="line-height: 22px; ">金代把国都</b>迁到燕京，这是<b style="line-height: 22px; ">北京正式成为一国国都之始</b>。」 ------<font color="#ee1111" style="line-height: 22px; ">这是原文中没有的。</font></p><p style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 22px; ">「在辽代建国之前，契丹族就已经不断从战争中俘虏大批奴隶，不仅有北方其他少数民族，也有当时幽燕地区的大批汉族人。」------<font color="#ee1111" style="line-height: 22px; ">这是原文中没有的。</font></p><p style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 22px; ">「蒙古统治者这种分化汉族的政策，使得<b style="line-height: 22px; ">原住在大都的汉族人地位高于「南人」，和契丹、女真人仍旧保持密切的联系，</b>同时又被迫和蒙古族人杂居在一起，和蒙语产生交往。」------<font color="#ee1111" style="line-height: 22px; ">这是原文中没有的。</font></p><p style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 22px; "><font color="#ee1111" style="line-height: 22px; "><font color="#000000" style="line-height: 22px; ">「<font color="#0000ff" style="line-height: 22px; ">但是这些<b style="line-height: 22px; "><font color="#000000" style="line-height: 22px; ">少数民族语言在客观上确实对汉语本身的发展起了很重要的推动作用</font>，</b>元大都话<b style="line-height: 22px; "><font color="#000000" style="line-height: 22px; ">入声已经消失</font></b>就是一个明证</font>」------</font><font color="#ee1111" style="line-height: 22px; ">这是原文中没有的。</font></font></p><p style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 22px; "><font color="#ee1111" style="line-height: 22px; "><font color="#ee1111" style="line-height: 22px; "><font color="#000000" style="line-height: 22px; ">「当时<b style="line-height: 22px; ">明辽东地区政治极为腐败，大批当地的汉族人逃亡到政治上已经比较开放的满族统治区。</b>于是满族统治区的汉族人口骤增，<b style="line-height: 22px; ">有不少汉族人甚至自愿加入满族或和满族人通婚，</b>这些人说的仍是汉语。当时满族人和人数众多的汉族人接触，不能不使用这种汉语方言，<b style="line-height: 22px; ">新加入满族的汉族人虽然也要求学满语，</b>但母语仍旧是这种汉语方言。...」------</font><font color="#ee1111" style="line-height: 22px; ">这是原文中没有的。</font></font></font></p><p style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 22px; "><font color="#ee1111" style="line-height: 22px; "><font color="#ee1111" style="line-height: 22px; "><font color="#ee1111" style="line-height: 22px; "><font color="#000000" style="line-height: 22px; ">「满清是倾八旗兵力入关进占北京的。清太祖努尔哈赤初建八旗时，满族人在八旗中占绝对优势。随着军事活动的需要，八旗组织迅速扩大，已经不可能只依靠人数有限的满族人力量，于是陆续增加了汉军八旗和蒙军八旗，大批投满的汉族人就这样被补充了进去。到清军入关时，八旗成分已经发生了根本性的变化，汉人的数量大增。根据历史档案的记载，在初建八旗时汉人只占4%，到入关时迅速上升到76%，在八旗中占了绝对优势。这些在旗汉人中的大多数原来都是世代居住在东北的汉族人，他们所说的汉语方言就成为八旗的通用语言。这种方言本是辽金时代随着被掳掠的大批汉族人带到东北地区的，它的基础是以当时的北京话为核心的幽燕方言，<b style="line-height: 22px; ">在六七百年的漫长时间内和当地少数民族语言密切接触，这时又随着八旗兵进入了北京，和直接由元大都话继承下来的当地北京话同时并存在当时的北京城</b>。------</font><font color="#ee1111" style="line-height: 22px; ">这是原文中没有的。</font></font></font></font></p><p style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 22px; "><font color="#000000" style="line-height: 22px; "><font color="#0909f7" style="line-height: 22px; "><b style="line-height: 22px; ">另请注意以上私货中的黑字部分。</b></font>有心的读者应该不难由此得出这位汉语胡化论者到底是什麽民族的人的结论了吧（如果此君真是智商偏低有受虐变态心理的话，也许情况不同）。</font></p><p style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 22px; ">附加说明：徐杰舜先生是一位鼓吹汉族不止炎黄一个源头的「汉族融合物」论的人士，但都没有像某些汉语胡化论者那样胡说现代汉民族共同语为胡化语。另外，如果有蒙人或满人也发表现代汉民族共同语是被他们祖先强奸出来的「胡化语」的话，那些认为汉语胡化论者也是爱汉族的汉民族主义者的人们也许不会认为这些蒙人或满人也是爱汉族的汉民族主义者，但若这些这些蒙人或满人不公布自己的民族成份、或者在其他方面装扮成是热爱汉族的汉人呢？</p></div></td></tr></tbody></table></span></div>陆续有来
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padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 4px; padding-left: 6px; ">小</a><a href="javascript:void(0);" onclick="fontSize('b','textstyle_2')" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-top: 4px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 4px; padding-left: 6px; ">大</a> 2楼</em><a href="http://www.uphan.com/userspace.asp?sid=4719" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-top: 4px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 4px; padding-left: 6px; ">个性首页</a> | <a href="tencent://message/?uin=&Site=Dvbbs.Net&Menu=yes" title="点击发送QQ消息给张义朝" target="_self" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-top: 4px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 4px; padding-left: 6px; ">QQ</a> | <a href="http://www.uphan.com/dispuser.asp?id=4719" target="_blank" title="查看张义朝的个人资料" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-top: 4px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 4px; padding-left: 6px; ">信息</a> | <a href="http://www.uphan.com/query.asp?stype=1&nSearch=3&keyword=%E5%BC%A0%E4%B9%89%E6%9C%9D&BoardID=15&SearchDate=ALL" target="_blank" title="搜索张义朝在15的所有贴子" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-top: 4px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 4px; padding-left: 6px; ">搜索</a> | <a href="mailto:xtrgmnuijou@sina.com" title="点击这里发送电子邮件给张义朝" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-top: 4px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 4px; padding-left: 6px; ">邮箱</a> | <a href="http://www.uphan.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=15&id=74509" target="_blank" title="访问张义朝的主页" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-top: 4px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 4px; padding-left: 6px; ">主页</a> | <a href="http://service.51uc.com/user_info/show_user_info_base.shtml?UID=" title="张义朝的UC情况" target="_blank" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-top: 4px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 4px; padding-left: 6px; ">UC</a></td></tr><tr><td rowspan="3" valign="top" class="infoleft leftcolor" style="width: 190px; border-right-width: 1px; border-right-style: solid; border-right-color: rgb(159, 106, 28); padding-left: 20px; "><br style="line-height: 10px; "><span style="display: block; "><img width="62" height="62" src="http://www.uphan.com/images/userface/image40.gif" alt="" style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; vertical-align: middle; margin-top: 2px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 2px; margin-left: 0px; "></span><br style="line-height: 10px; "><span style="display: block; "><img src="http://www.uphan.com/images/freund.gif" alt="" style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; vertical-align: middle; margin-top: 2px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 2px; margin-left: 0px; "> <a href="http://www.uphan.com/friendlist.asp?action=addF&myFriend=%E5%BC%A0%E4%B9%89%E6%9C%9D" target="_blank" title="把张义朝加入好友" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">加好友</a> <img src="http://www.uphan.com/images/mail.gif" style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; vertical-align: middle; margin-top: 2px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 2px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="javascript:;" onclick="DvWnd.open('给张义朝发送短信','messanger.asp?action=new&touser=张义朝',800,600,1,{bgc:'black',opa:0.5});" title="给张义朝发送一个短消息" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">发短信</a></span><span style="display: block; "><img src="http://www.uphan.com/skins/Default/star/level14.gif" alt="" style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; vertical-align: middle; margin-top: 2px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 2px; margin-left: 0px; "></span><span style="display: block; "></span><br style="line-height: 10px; height: 10px; "><span style="display: block; ">等级：贵宾</span><span style="display: block; ">贴子：<b class="green" style="color: rgb(0, 128, 0); ">209</b></span><span style="display: block; ">积分：1180</span><span style="display: block; ">威望：0</span><span style="display: block; ">精华：0</span><span style="display: block; ">注册：<em style="font-style: normal; color: rgb(157, 157, 155); font-size: 11px; ">2008-4-5 22:02:20</em></span></td><td class="inforight" valign="top" style="font-size: 14px; padding-top: 15px; padding-right: 15px; padding-bottom: 15px; padding-left: 15px; line-height: 16px; height: 170px; font-family: 'verdana,宋体'; "><b style="line-height: 15px; font-size: 12px; "></b> <span class="font10" style="font-size: 11px; color: rgb(175, 175, 175); line-height: 20px; font-family: Arial; "><img src="http://www.uphan.com/skins/Default/topicface/face1.gif" alt="发贴心情" style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; vertical-align: middle; line-height: 16px; "> Post By：2009-5-22 9:58:04 </span><br style="line-height: 21px; "><br style="line-height: 21px; "><div id="textstyle_2" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: auto; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: auto; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 22px; word-wrap: break-word; word-break: break-all; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden; font-size: 11pt; text-indent: 24px; "><p style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 22px; ">中国70%的人口的方言都属于北方语系,南方过半以上的地区都是说北方语系的,北方语系之间差异很小。</p><p style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 22px; ">你们例举的那些所谓普通话是胡语的证明，很多音、名词南方说北方语系的省份都有，</p><p style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 22px; "> </p><p style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 22px; ">可以语言污染几十万人的怎么可能影响到上亿人口的国度，而且南方像广东这些一些一样被胡元、满清占领，我可以用你们的逻辑你指广东话也被污染。</p><p style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 22px; ">不要说这是南方没有受影响，可南方包括四川、湖北、贵州、云南、湖南和广西的一些地区等也是说北方语系的，而且不少也带儿化韵和卷舌音，难道说也被污染了么？</p><p style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 22px; ">南方语系的，全国多数人听得懂么？如湖北、云南的的人去北方，不说普通话，只要说慢一点，别人都听得懂，反过来也是一样的，那鸟语一样的广东话谁听得懂。</p><p style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 22px; "> </p><p style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 22px; ">说白了是有些人的地方自大主义做怪，广东人有什么了不起，以前就有广东的小子因鸟语的关系，来我们这里被打得半死，杂的</p></div></td></tr></tbody></table></span> 我就知道，粤协这里有一位会员特别爱转汉网的贴过来~~~<img src="http://bbs.cantonese.asia/images/smilies/default/lol.gif" smilieid="12" border="0"> <P>-</P><P> </P>
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